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Obama Suggests Hasan May Have Cracked Under Stress (Defending Terrorist acts?)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/11/10/obama_suggests_still_possible_hasan_may_have_cracked_under_stress.html ^

Posted on 11/10/2009 12:44:03 PM PST by Typical_Whitey

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To: Typical_Whitey

“Until we have these answers buttoned down, I’d rather not comment on it”

Then shut up Obama!


141 posted on 11/10/2009 7:20:03 PM PST by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: Rick_Michael

rarely have I heard a president so distort absolute truth. Someone tell him “ITS THE JIHAD STUPID!!!!!”


142 posted on 11/10/2009 7:39:25 PM PST by londonfog
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To: the anti-liberal
Obama is full of BS. The main goal of many Muzzies is to kill Americans. Hasan has a record to prove it.
143 posted on 11/10/2009 7:45:53 PM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Obama's America

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144 posted on 11/10/2009 7:49:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Typical_Whitey

There sure have been a lot of “snap” shootings since zero took office.

If Bush was still prez, the media would be blaming him in every headline day after day for weeks, perhaps months. Rat congressmen and senators would be demanding documents and investigations into whether the Bush administration knew about the guy, when did they know it, etc., on and on.


145 posted on 11/10/2009 7:52:15 PM PST by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: Typical_Whitey

OK. Here is a copy of an email I received yesterday. This is from a soldier under stress:

Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 7:24 am
Subject: Fort Hood

This was sent to me from a retired Brigidare General in our golf group. Thought you’d like to read it.

Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 7:42 PM

Subject: Fort Hood Account from JAG officer onsite

> Subject: What happened

> Since I don’t know when I’ll sleep (it’s 4 am now) I’ll write what happened (the abbreviated version.....the long one is already part of the investigation with more to come). I’ll not write about any part of the investigation that I’ve learned about since (as a witness I know more than I should since inevitably my JAG brothers and sisters are deeply involved in the investigation). Don’t assume that most of the current media accounts are very accurate. They’re not. They’ll improve with time. Only those of us who were there really know what went down. But as they collate our statements they’ll get it right.
>
> I did my SRP last week (Soldier Readiness Processing) but you’re supposed to come back a week later to have them look at the smallpox vaccination site (it’s this big itchy growth on your shoulder). I am probably alive because I pulled a ————— and entered the wrong building first (the main SRP building). The Medical SRP building is off to the side. Realizing my mistake I left the main building and walked down the sidewalk to the medical SRP building.
As I’m walking up to it the gunshots start. Slow and methodical. But continuous. Two ambulatory wounded came out. Then two soldiers dragging a third who was covered in blood. Hearing the shots but not seeing the shooter, along with a couple other soldiers I stood in the street and yelled at everyone who came running that it was clear but to “RUN!”. I kept motioning people fast. about 6-10 minutes later (the shooting continuous), two cops ran up. one male, one female. we pointed in the direction of the shots. they headed that way (the medical SRP building was about 50 meters away). then a lot more gunfire. a couple minutes later a balding man in ACU’s came around the building carrying a pistol and holding it tactically. He started shooting at us and we all dived back to the cars behind us. I don’t think he hit the couple other guys who were there. I did see the bullet holes later in the cars. First I went behind a tire and then looked under the body of the car. I’ve been trained how to respond to gunfire...but with my own weapon. To have no weapon I don’t know how to explain what that felt like. I hadn’t run away and stayed because I had thought about the consequences or anything like that. I wasn’t thinking anything through. Please understand, there was no intention. I was just staying there because I didn’t think about running. It never occurred to me that he might shoot me. Until he started shooting in my direction and I realized I was unarmed. Then the female cop comes around the corner. He shoots her. (according to the news accounts she got a round into him. I believe it, I just didn’t see it. he didn’t go down.) She goes down. He starts reloading. He’s fiddling with his mags. Weirdly he hasn’t dropped the one that was in his weapon. He’s holding the fresh one and the old one (you do that on the range when time is not of the essence but in combat you would just let the old mag go). I see the male cop around the left corner of the building. (I’m about 15-20 meters from the shooter.) I yell at the cop, “He’s reloading, he’s reloading. Shoot him! Shoot him!) You have to understand, everything was quiet at this point. The cop appears to hear me and comes around the corner and shoots the shooter. He goes down. The cop kicks his weapon further away. I sprint up to the downed female cop. Another captain (I think he was with me behind the cars) comes up as well. She’s bleeding profusely out of her thigh. We take our belts off and tourniquet her just like we’ve been trained (I hope we did it right...we didn’t have any CLS (combat lifesaver) bags with their awesome tourniquets on us, so we worked with what we had). Meanwhile, in the most bizarre moment of the day, a photographer was standing over us taking pictures. I suppose I’ll be seeing those tomorrow. Then a soldier came up and identified himself as a medic. I then realized her weapon was lying there unsecured (and on “fire”). I stood over it and when I saw a cop yelled for him to come over and secure her weapon (I would have done so but I was worried someone would mistake me for a bad guy). I then went over to the shooter. He was unconscious. A Lt Colonel was there and had secured his primary weapon for the time being. He also had a revolver. I couldn’t believe he was one of ours. I didn’t want to believe it. Then I saw his name and rank and realized this wasn’t just some specialist with mental issues. At this point there was a guy there from CID and I asked him if he knew he was the shooter and had him secured. He said he did.
I then went over the slaughter house. the medical SRP building. No human should ever have to see what that looked like. and I won’t tell you. Just believe me. Please. there was nothing to be done there. Someone then said there was someone critically wounded around the corner. I ran around (while seeing this floor to ceiling window that someone had jumped through movie style) and saw a large African-American soldier lying on his back with two or three soldiers attending. I ran up and identified two entrance wounds on the right side of his stomach, one exit wound on the left side and one head wound. He was not bleeding externally from the stomach wounds (though almost certainly internally) but was bleeding from the head wound. A soldier was using a shirt to try and stop the head bleeding. He was conscious so I began talking to him to keep him so. He was 42, from North Carolina, he was named something Jr., his son was named something III and he had a daughter as well. His children lived with him. He was divorced. I told him the blubber on his stomach saved his life. He smiled. a young soldier in civvies showed up and identified himself as a combat medic. We debated whether to put him on the back of a pickup truck. A doctor (well, an audiologist) showed up and said you can’t move him, he has a head wound. we finally sat tight.
I went back to the slaughterhouse. they weren’t letting anyone in there. not even medics. finally, after about 45 minutes had elapsed some cops showed up in tactical vests. someone said the TBI building was unsecured. They headed into there. All of a > sudden a couple more shots were fired. People shouted there was a second shooter. a half hour later the SWAT showed up. there was no second shooter. that had been an impetuous cop apparently. but that confused things for a while. meanwhile I went back to the shooter. the female cop had been taken away. a medic was pumping plasma into the shooter. I’m not proud of this but I went up to her and said “this is the shooter, is there anyone else who needs attention...do them first”. she indicated everyone else living was attended to. I still hadn’t seen any EMTs or ambulances.
I had so much blood on me that people kept asking me if I was ok. but that was all other people’s blood. eventually (an hour and a half to two hours after the shootings) they started landing choppers. they took out the big African American guy and the shooter. I guess the ambulatory wounded were all at the SRP building. Everyone else in my area
was dead.
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I suppose the emergency responders were told there were multiple shooters. I heard that was the delay with the choppers (they were all civilian helicopters). they needed a secure LZ. but other than the initial cops who did everything right, I didnt’ see a lot of them for a while. I did see many a soldier rush out to help their fellows/sisters. there was one female soldier, I dont’ know her name or rank but I would recognize her anywhere who was everywhere helping people. a couple people, mainly civilians, were hysterical, but only a couple. one civilian freaked out when I tried to comfort her when she saw my uniform. I guess she had seen the shooter up close. a lot of soldiers were rushing out to help even when we thought there was another gunman out there. this Army is not broken no matter what the pundits say. not the Army I saw. and then they kept me for a long time to come. oh, and perhaps the most surreal thing, at 1500 (the end of the workday on Thursdays) when the bugle sounded we all came to attention and saluted the flag. in the middle of it all.

this is what I saw. it can’t have been real. but this is my small corner of what happened.


146 posted on 11/10/2009 8:00:47 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: Tzimisce
Is this really what everyone voted for a year ago?

Only those that voted against America.

147 posted on 11/10/2009 8:27:00 PM PST by taraytarah (Our Constitution must be defended and protected from all domestic enemies.)
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To: Nachum
Obama is a pathetic liar. He lies in the face of strong evidence coming out against the terrorist Hasan.  Everyone is finding out about his contempt for America and his hatred for the war on terror.  He prayed in the Islamist extremist Imam Anwar al Awlaki's mosque, the same place where several of the 911 terrorists worshiped.

The FBI knew about his man's communications with the radical Imam Anwar al Awlaki over the last 2 years – they had intercepted some 20 to 30 emails between the terrorist Hasan and the Imam who now lives in Yemen, and yet they didn't do anything. This is the same Imam who recently praised Hasan for his heinous crime, posting the following on his blog:

Nidal Hassan is a hero. He is a man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people. This is a contradiction that many Muslims brush aside and just pretend that it doesn’t exist. Any decent Muslim cannot live, understanding properly his duties towards his Creator and his fellow Muslims, and yet serve as a US soldier. The US is leading the war against terrorism which in reality is a war against Islam. Its army is directly invading two Muslim countries and indirectly occupying the rest through its stooges.

Nidal opened fire on soldiers who were on their way to be deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. How can there be any dispute about the virtue of what he has done? In fact the only way a Muslim could Islamically justify serving as a soldier in the US army is if his intention is to follow the footsteps of men like Nidal.

The heroic act of brother Nidal also shows the dilemma of the Muslim American community. Increasingly they are being cornered into taking stances that would either make them betray Islam or betray their nation. Many amongst them are choosing the former. The Muslim organizations in America came out in a pitiful chorus condemning Nidal’s operation.

The fact that fighting against the US army is an Islamic duty today cannot be disputed. No scholar with a grain of Islamic knowledge can defy the clear cut proofs that Muslims today have the right -rather the duty- to fight against American tyranny. Nidal has killed soldiers who were about to be deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan in order to kill Muslims. The American Muslims who condemned his actions have committed treason against the Muslim Ummah and have fallen into hypocrisy.

Allah(swt) says: Give tidings to the hypocrites that there is for them a painful punishment – Those who take disbelievers as allies instead of the believers. Do they seek with them honor [through power]? But indeed, honor belongs to Allah entirely. (al-Nisa 136-137)

The inconsistency of being a Muslim today and living in America and the West in general reveals the wisdom behind the opinions that call for migration from the West. It is becoming more and more difficult to hold on to Islam in an environment that is becoming more hostile towards Muslims.

May Allah grant our brother Nidal patience, perseverance and steadfastness and we ask Allah to accept from him his great heroic act. source

So judging by the words of Imam Awlaki, and the revelation by the Washington Post that a year and half ago, Hasan told a group of doctors at Fort Hood that to avoid ''adverse events,'' the military should release Muslims who objected to fighting the war in the Middle East, and if we add the cowardly conduct of the Commander in Chief, who refuses to call this crime for what it is (despite growing evidence against Hasan), I'm afraid this will be seen more as an invitation to other terrorists to act as the Imam predicted, rather than as a stern, sincere warning against the enemies of the USA.

I think the reason Obama doesn't want to call this 'terrorism' is because a terrorist act would change the judicial venue to the US criminal courts under US anti-terrorism laws.

On the other hand, one of Hasan's defense lawyers has told investigators not to question him before he has representation.  No, he is not a Muslim, but a retired military judge - Colonel John Galligan - who has questioned whether poor Hasan could even have a fair trial in the aftermath of all the media coverage surrounding his case.

148 posted on 11/10/2009 8:38:40 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Typical_Whitey
Obama's statement in a nutshell:

"Shit happens"

149 posted on 11/10/2009 8:53:46 PM PST by Califreak (Obama's Purple Reign must be stopped!)
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To: PhiKapMom
Is that the same guy who was saying he hoped it wouldn't affect their diversity policy? Why the h*ll not - it **kills** our troops for G*dssake. Did he not teach his own children about stranger danger? Or are we supposed to let our little tykes play nice with the creepy dude in the trenchcoat or the nice fella who "lost his dog"?


150 posted on 11/10/2009 9:38:00 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: ishmac
That may be so, although I've begun to wonder whether the endless string of insults and affronts to our decency aren't intentional. Zero is cold, and I think he is a sadist too. I wouldn't exclude a certain calculation to his insults. It's a kind of juvenile, psyops move on his part.

Yesterday Mathews suggests it's not against the law to call AlQaeda and today Rivera offers a toothache excuse for the terrorist's actions.

Intentional, calculated and nothing juvenile about any aspect of this ongoing attack on US, imo.

151 posted on 11/10/2009 9:56:27 PM PST by MurrietaMadman (Luke 23:31 http://www.restoretherepublic.org/?p=2330)
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To: Typical_Whitey
 

"Either you are with us or you are for the terrorists."
~~George W. Bush

152 posted on 11/10/2009 10:13:46 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Typical_Whitey

“Until we have these answers buttoned down, I’d rather not comment on it.”

- Yeah, like you just DID!

If this fool had lived in the Roman era he would have been executed for being an incompetent boob.


153 posted on 11/10/2009 10:21:44 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: Ezekiel

That’s the Army Chief of Staff who should resign immediately IMHO after preaching diversity after this rampage by an Islamic Jihadists. They will never convince me it is anything different.


154 posted on 11/10/2009 10:23:39 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Ezekiel

The only diversity I want to see in our military is: Marines, SEALs, Navy, Marines, Air Force, Army, National Guard and..Marines.

They need to throw these Muzzies out or more atrocities will occur. Enough with the PC bull$hit.


155 posted on 11/10/2009 10:27:17 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: concerned about politics

IMPEACH THE FAKE POTUS


156 posted on 11/10/2009 10:40:09 PM PST by paul revere is riding
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Thank you for this wonderful post! I’m soooo glad I’m not the only one who is “allegedly” going nuts over that term CONSTANTLY being used.


157 posted on 11/10/2009 11:25:58 PM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: FlyingEagle
Thank you for posting this.

Have you made a separate posting thread for this ?

It is very informative and many on FR would want to read it.

158 posted on 11/10/2009 11:40:09 PM PST by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: Typical_Whitey
And in a country of 300 million people, there are going to be acts of violence that are inexplicable.

But this is not one of them, Mr. Obama.

159 posted on 11/11/2009 12:12:55 AM PST by Jess Kitting
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To: Typical_Whitey
"Hasan is a terrorist and unless Obama recognizes this fact, Americans everywhere will remain at risk."

You honestly think he doesn't already recognize that?

160 posted on 11/11/2009 12:56:00 AM PST by mitch5501 (Yeah,but is it shatterproof?)
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