See that river that cut a water gap in that uplifted ripple of land? Fairy tales of vegetarian T rex indeed...
Posted on 11/10/2009 8:45:14 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
Probably you have heard the expression, ‘Seeing is believing’, but is that always true? In fact, quite often it’s the other way around: ‘Believing is seeing’. This is true of geology, for example. Geological evidence does not speak for itself, and so it must always be interpreted. And how we interpret that evidence is always influenced by our beliefs.
A good example of this is found on a roadside interpretive sign near the Sheep Rock Unit of the John Day Fossil Beds National Monument in central Oregon. This is where the John Day River flows through a water gap[1] called Picture Gorge. It’s about 300 m (1,000 ft) deep, with nearly vertical walls of basalt.
According to the standard uniformitarian interpretation, the basaltic lava flowed over this area about 16 million years ago. After that, the river slowly cut down through these lava flows over millions of years to form the gorge. But how could a river flow through a long range of hills? You would expect water to flow around.
The creationist interpretation, however, does not have these sorts of problems...
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See that river that cut a water gap in that uplifted ripple of land? Fairy tales of vegetarian T rex indeed...
See the rivers that cut through the uplifting ripples of land?
I know that you’re not intelligent enough to realize that your first two sentences acknowledge my point! (amazing)
Obviously you need a brain!
Your picture proves my position, not yours.
An uplift would have realigned the river since erosion in the hard uplifted material would have been slower, thus forcing the river to the sides.
What else do we expect from someone who believes the sun goes around the earth (geocentrism)?
Ignorantly wrong again. An extremely slow uplift, you know....over a few million years....would allow the river to erode a water gap in the uplift. Problem with your brain is that you cannot accept anything that takes millions of years...or hundreds of thousands.....does.....not....compute (shut down).
To think uplifts like those happen so quickly so as to divert the river without eroding the ukplift is purely ignorant of the erosive power of water.
In need of a brain indeed...mayhaps you should educate yourself on water gaps and simple water erosion.
All the other routes out of the valley I live in have been cut by man in the last 150 years.
Very easy, no biblical flood needed to explain it.
This is a purely ignorant statement. AFTER the lava flowed in a flat sheet, the river existed. As the lava flows uplifted by being compressed horizontally...forming a ridge in the same manner as the same kind of ridges form all over the globe, the river cut through the lava as it happened using the simple erosive power of moving water. ONLY if the uplift happened rapidly would the river "flow around" or be diverted elsewhere rather than cut through. Seems these water gaps would prove an old earth.....as a quick catastrophic event WOULD HAVE diverted the river.
I'd LOVE to hear the YEC explanation of how water gaps are formed.....
Take the Mississippi River or any river flowing on a plain....right now.....and uplift, perpendicular to it, a basalt ridge at a slow rate, the river will slice through it without even blinking an inch to the side.....like pushing a 2X4 at a table saw blade at the rate of 1 picometer per year.
That, if true, would predate the formation of the lakes as a source of water.
Still a great many questions remain. How fast water can erode the stone, how long water has flowed through this particular gorge and a constnat source of water.
I wouldn’t preclude anything just yet.
No thanks, not into fantasy.
You don't need a lake as a source of water - 10 inches of rain a year is enough. If you want to see some interesting topo maps, google 'Steens Mountain' under google maps, change to terrain, and then check out some of the valleys on that fault block mountain.
Its a non-issue for me....we have the devil in our face today in the here and now....
I’ll find out all about the earth and creation when I see Jesus.
Lets get our priorities straight folks....we are at the door way to the great tribulation and many are going to fall away.
Are You learning to “STAND”?
Its a non-issue for me....we have the devil in our face today in the here and now....
I’ll find out all about the earth and creation when I see Jesus.
Lets get our priorities straight folks....we are at the door way to the great tribulation and many are going to fall away.
Are You learning to “STAND”?
Re-phrasing what ElectricStrawberry has been saying, we are talking about uplifts that are happening at the rate of millimeters per year. A river would erode its way though such an uplift faster than the uplift would occur.
You are purposefully not allowing for the rate, because an uplift rate in the range of meters-per-millenia would not be consistent with "Young Earth"
The assumptions are not supported by current rates of known uplifts. Its all fantasy.
They've already side-stepped the fact that basalt is some of the densest material on Earth. It would definitely be eroding much slower than the surrounding material.
Which known uplifts are you referring to? Name a few, please?
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