Posted on 11/08/2009 1:23:45 PM PST by BunnySlippers
The lightly-built police heroine who is credited with halting the Fort Hood massacre almost died at the scene after losing half the blood in her body.
Mother of one Sergeant Kimberley Munley confronted gunman Nidal Malik Hasan and, despite being wounded in both legs, brought him down with four shots.
One of the shots cut an artery in her leg, leaving blood pumping out but she still managed to keep firing before collapsing.
Heroine: Kim Munley, a civilian police officer, is the woman who brought Hasan down by shooting him four times before he could slaughter more people.
Medic Francisco Delaserna applied a tourniquet to Sgt Munley as she drifted in and out of consciousness because of blood loss.
'I cut her trousers oopen, tied a tourniquet around her thigh and stopped the bleeding. But she had already lost a lot of blood,' he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
I wish she had had her scatter gun instead of the pop gun. Or, in addition to, I should say.
Raze it...
That doesn’t even make sense. Clearly, you were a ground pounder. Stick to that.
MAybe jes because experts and commanders say it doesn’t make it so. We’re a little short on trust for authority around here. Why don’t you tell us why officers don’t carry their personal sidearms on base? Why don’t you tell us what the POINT is of HAVING a personal sidearm if you don’t have it when some freak is shooting up your command? In fact, I’d go so far as to say that Base commander should be looking at a court martial, as well as that medical staff commander. Last I checked, the military still believed a commander was responsible for what happend on his watch.
I'm reminded of the story of a certain Lieutenant Patton who stood face to face with a mexican bandito and then brought him back to camp strapped to the hood of his staff car.
"The Mexican "General" and his two men had turned their horses again, heading north. Apparently they thought that they would have a much better chance against the lone figure of Patton. Unfortunately, they had no way of knowing that they would be going against one of the finest marksmen in the United States Army, as a matter of fact, the whole world. Patton had, in 1912, set a world's record at the Olympics at Stockholm, Sweden during practice for the pistol competition.
At a distance of about 20 yards, the Mexican opened fire on Patton. Patton returned the fire with a deliberate 5 rounds. One of the rounds hit the lead rider and broke his arm. Another round went into the belly of the horse he was riding.
By this time, the other American soldiers had made their way around the corner and had started shooting. Patton ducked back around the corner to get out of their line of fire. Patton reloaded his single action Colt.
The other two riders galloped by him at a range of ten paces, firing at and MISSING both Patton and Lunt.
Patton returned the fire, hitting the nearest Mexican's horse, which fell on the rider. Patton actually waited for the man to extricate himself from underneath the animal. When he was free and he rose to fire at Patton, Patton killed him with one shot, fired from under his left arm.
The third Mexican swerved his horse to his right and galloped to the east. Patton and two other soldiers opened up at the fleeing bandito.
Mr. Lunt, being a civilian, was unarmed. He could not join in the shooting, and was, indeed, happy that he was with Lieutenant Patton. The third Mexican met a swift death."
On the contrary, military police work is JUST what we’re being called on to do overseas, and rather than complain our troops aren’t trained for it, we should be training them.
Actually, it is from the article. I just cut and pasted. I probably should have italicized ... or made it clear.
Shooting targets at 100 yds with a pistola? Especially that little 5-7? I call bullcrap.
Incorrect. He was an American civil war general, but he fought for the CSA, not the USA.
Excellent general when the odds were close to even, but not the guy to send up against superior forces.
But soldiers are taught to counterattack in ambushes. It’s been that way for decades. In fact, that sort of training is given to even the support units these days. In an Army filled with combat vets (from wars where ambushes are, after IED’s, the preferred mode of enemy attack), it is a bit surprising that he wasn’t rushed by the soldiers under attack. Kip Kinkel’s school attack didn’t become a Columbine exactly because several of the students did rush him, despite being unarmed.
No matter, I’m sure we’ll learn more eventually about the timeline and physical aspects of the attack. And how good a shot the traitor was.
You really have no idea what you’re talking about. Not a clue.
I’ve been observing that for awhile lately. It seems like some key stories are coming out of the UK, not the U.S., and it’s a disgrace foreign media does a better job than ours.
You betcha. ;)
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Keep in mind Hasan was standing on top of a table. I saw one interview with a victim who did try to stop him and was shot before he could even get close. He was firing down on his victims and they were sitting ducks. Are you saying you could have tackled the guy off the table before he blew you away?
Not necessarily saying I could have tackled him (I’m a small female who hasn’t done any fitness training in recent history), but it seems to me that with 300 about-to-be deployed, and presumably quite fit soldiers on the scene, SOMEBODY could have yanked him off balance by the ankles or something, thrown a chair at him, whatever. He couldn’t have be aiming at that huge array of people all at once. And he reportedly reloaded more than once. Again, with 300 people there, it seems really odd that *nobody* could stop him while he was reloading.
So why didn't it work that way at the high school cafeteria that Kip Kinkel started shooting up? I've never been in a situation like this so I'm not comparing how the soldiers responded to how I would like to imagine I would respong. I'm comparing their response to the response of the high school kids who took down Kinkel. Kinkel didn't get a chance to reload because he got tackled the second he started trying to.
Would you have rushed him?? No one (media) has mentioned what he was shooting other than “the cop killer” handgun and a revolver which leans (imo) towards the FN Five-seveN 5.7x28 pistol, 20 rnd mag.. In that routine situation, would you shift gears and charge unarmed into someone directing close range directed fire at you.
Civilian police started policing military bases in 1985.
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