Army chief fears backlash for Muslim U.S. soldiers

Reuters ^ | Nov 8, 2009 | Will Dunham

[An Old Man]

The U.S. Army's top general expressed concern on Sunday that last week's mass shooting at Fort Hood in Texas, blamed on a Muslim Army officer, could fuel a backlash in the military against Muslim troops.

General George Casey, U.S. Army chief of staff, cautioned against jumping to conclusions about whether religious beliefs motivated the accused gunman, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a Muslim born in the United States of immigrant parents.

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"I'm concerned that this increased speculation could cause a backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers. And I've asked our Army leaders to be on the lookout for that," Casey told CNN's "State of the Union."

There are about 3,000 Muslims on active duty military service or in the National Guard or reserve forces, Casey said. They remain a small minority within the U.S. military.

A Fort Hood official has said Hasan yelled "Allahu Akbar" -- Arabic for "God is Greatest" -- just before the shooting in which 13 people were killed and 30 wounded. The 39-year-old U.S. Army psychiatrist was shot four times by police. He was hospitalized but no longer needed a ventilator to breathe.

[Publius6961]

Should we also forget about the 8 or 9 Muslim soldiers like this one?

Typical infantile thinking...

Let me think.
Tradeoff of 8 or 9 vs. 5000 killed so far in the US and counting...

I'll get back to ya.

[Publius6961]

Hassan was born here.

Well, then, that changes everything. I apologize for actually thinking.

Just another random mugging.
No biggie.

[Publius6961]

Therefore, it will be too complicated for many in the gov’t to figure out.

Or the few mentally-challenged "Freepers" on this thread.

[ASOC]

While the Kokuryūkai was active in the US before the start of WWII, recently declassified FedGov documents show to what extent and role these 'spys' played Also an intertsting site - http://www.nickgrantadventures.com/Japanese_Spy_Activities.htm adds this The most dangerous of these people were either in custodial detention or members of such organizations as the Black Dragon Society, the Kaigun Kyokai (Navy League), or the Hoirusha Kai (Military Service Man's League), or affiliated groups. The membership of these groups was already fairly well known to the Naval Intelligence Service or the FBI and could be immediately placed in custodial detention, irrespective of whether they were alien or citizen. Another example, in the Southeast Asia area, were Japanese living in Malaya before World War II carrying out subversion and providing intelligence information, troops and war materiel. These Japanese immigrants, or first generation descendants of Japanese born in Malaya, were considered doho, or compatriots by Japanese traditions and law. Their allegiance to the Emperor and Japan was assumed by Japan's leaders. The doho in Malaya included the Japanese Editor of a local journal, a Japanese diplomat (arrested for espionage), thousands of Japanese prostitutes, businessmen, dentists, photographers and barbers. As with anything on the web, use this as a starting point for your own research....

[Publius6961]

Nothing that doing away with that pesky Constitution wouldn't solve.

In the pesent political climate, I don't think you want to go there.

At least ignoring the Constitutional as is curently being done with the "Health reform" hasn't killed anyone (yet).

[Publius6961]

Your solution is to get rid of the 2,999 or so that have done nothing but serve honorably.

Need I point out that ten days ago, according to your muddled logic, 3000 muslims had done nothing and served "honorably?"

Kum-ba-ya all around, Skippy.

[ASOC]

Sigh - my HTML needs help

This will have to do

While the Kokuryūkai was active in the US before the start of WWII, recently declassified FedGov documents show to what extent and role these 'spys' played

Also an intertsting site -
http://www.nickgrantadventures.com/Japanese_Spy_Activities.htm adds this

The most dangerous of these people were either in custodial detention or members of such organizations as the Black Dragon Society, the Kaigun Kyokai (Navy League), or the Hoirusha Kai (Military Service Man's League), or affiliated groups.

The membership of these groups was already fairly well known to the Naval Intelligence Service or the FBI and could be immediately placed in custodial detention, irrespective of whether they were alien or citizen. Another example, in the Southeast Asia area, were Japanese living in Malaya before World War II carrying out subversion and providing intelligence information, troops and war materiel.

These Japanese immigrants, or first generation descendants of Japanese born in Malaya, were considered doho, or compatriots by Japanese traditions and law. Their allegiance to the Emperor and Japan was assumed by Japan's leaders. The doho in Malaya included the Japanese Editor of a local journal, a Japanese diplomat (arrested for espionage), thousands of Japanese prostitutes, businessmen, dentists, photographers and barbers.

As with anything on the web, use this as a starting point for your own research....

[Non-Sequitur]

N-S, I must say that you’re being naive in the extreme here.

No, I'm not being idiotic here.

[Non-Sequitur]

So how do you tell the difference?

Apparently you don't feel the need to.

[Non-Sequitur]

Just give them some due process and then apply the penalty.

And the crime is what, being Muslim? If you're going to do away with the First Amendment then why should you care about the Fifth?

[Non-Sequitur]

In the pesent political climate, I don't think you want to go there.

Why not?

At least ignoring the Constitutional as is curently being done with the "Health reform" hasn't killed anyone (yet).

So then where are you any different from the Democrats?

[Non-Sequitur]

Need I point out that ten days ago, according to your muddled logic, 3000 muslims had done nothing and served "honorably?"

And one committed a horrible crime. So your solution is to convict all 3000 plus.

[An Old Man]

The crime would be domestic terrorism or inciting a riot if you prefer.

So you agree that it is perfectly legal to run around advocating the death of persons you believe have different views than you, provided you use religion as a shield.

Is that really your belief?

[PapaBear3625]

I don’t believe any ‘church’ or ‘mosque’ leaders should be advocating violence from the pulpit (or in any other manor). If Muslim leaders are preaching about what violent things need to be done to the infidels, then the Mosque should be closed. At the very least, the leader trying to incite should be charged with incitement and placed in prison.

The government has no problem with going after Christian Identity "religious groups" like Aryan Nations when they advocate violence.

Imams who preach Jihad from the pulpit, and mosque communities who tolerate such preaching, should be subject to joint and several liability when a member acts upon such preachings.

[Joe Boucher]

Boy, I may buy tickets to see that, A Christian passing out Bibles in front of a mosque then opening fire.
Put it on pay per view.
I can hear the cheering now.

[MinuteGal]

There is no joy in Mudville
"Backlash" Casey has struck out !

Leni

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Thank you for the information. I was aware of it in general.

I have never disputed the facts you cite. I do however dispute that all Japanese-Americans were considered spies and treated as such.

All were up-rooted from their homes and most possessions but I am sure that the vast majority were then relocated inland to locations as Granada, Colorado. Prior to the final move there were bleak "reception and assembly centers." I am in no way claiming that it was a "picnic."

I am suggesting that relatively few went to camps like Tule Lake, California. I believe that was a true internment camp.

You are correct in assuming that I am no expert in this. But I was old enough back then to remember a little bit about W.W.II and of course I have read a little about this aspect. I have absolutely no problem with President's Truman's decision to end the War with atomic bombs BTW. I do remember that.

The camp near Granada "contained several schools, a hospital, and a police department. Agriculture was the principal industry; vegetable and grain crops, along with livestock, were raised on two ranches . . . The evacuees themselves were responsible for much of the community's government."

I remember reading that in some cases the people decided to remain with the community (not necessarily Granada) and not go through the hassle of starting over in their old communities. I can believe it true or not.

[Yaelle]

Let me understand this. A Muslim extremist from deep inside the Army ranks attacks his fellow soldiers while they are unarmed and attempts to murder dozens of them, and succeeds with a dozen.

And the Army's reaction is NOT to fear that more of these attacks might come from other Muslim soldiers with the same terrorist ideology. No, the Army's reaction is that other Muslims might not be treated well?

So the Army's priority is to keep their Muslim soldiers comfortable over keeping their non-Muslim soldiers ALIVE????

[Yaelle]

"Leave me alone, infidel army! I am under religious stress!"

[heartwood]

“So how do you tell the difference?”
“Apparently you don’t feel the need to.”

The point is that there need to be policies on telling the difference and taking action, because you can in some cases.

Islam does lead to an internal conflict unlike Christianity, because its kingdom is here, now and worldly. For a US Muslim in the military, working out that conflict must be problematic.