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To: Star Traveler

Yesterday it was a Muslim in a mass shooting. Today it’s a Cuban/Mexican (by what his name is and what he looks like).

Before, it was all sorts of others doing the mass shootings. It seems to be part of our culture to do mass shootings...

Here is a glance at some of the worst U.S. mass shootings:

April 3, 2009: A 41-year-old man opened fire at an immigrant community center in Binghamton, N.Y., killing 11 immigrants and two workers. Jiverly Wong, a Vietnamese immigrant and a former student at the center, killed himself as police rushed to the scene.

March 10, 2009: Michael McLendon, 28, killed 10 people, including his mother, four other relatives and the wife and child of a local sheriff’s deputy, across two rural Alabama counties. He then committed suicide.

Feb. 14, 2008: Former student Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, fatally shooting five students and wounding 18 others before committing suicide.

Dec. 5, 2007: Robert A. Hawkins, 19, opened fire with a rifle in Omaha, Neb., at a Von Maur store in the Westroads Mall, killing eight people before taking his life. Five more people were wounded, two critically.

April 16, 2007: Cho Seung-Hui, 23, fatally shot 32 people in a dorm and a classroom at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, then killed himself in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

Feb. 12, 2007: Sulejman Talovic, 18, killed five and wounded four at the Trolley Square mall in Salt Lake City. He was then shot and killed by police.

Oct. 2, 2006: Charles Carl Roberts IV, 32, shot to death five girls at West Nickel Mines Amish School in Pennsylvania, then killed himself.

March 21, 2005: Jeffrey Weise, a 16-year-old student, killed nine people – his grandfather and his grandfather’s companion at home, and then five fellow students, a teacher and a security guard at Red Lake High School in Red Lake, Minn. – before killing himself. Seven students were wounded.

March 12, 2005: Terry Ratzmann, 44, gunned down members of his congregation as they worshipped at the Brookfield Sheraton in Brookfield, Wis., slaying seven and wounding four before killing himself.

July 29, 1999: Former day trader Mark Barton, 44, killed nine people in shootings at two Atlanta brokerage offices, then committed suicide.

April 20, 1999: Students Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, opened fire at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo., killing 12 classmates and a teacher and wounding 26 others before committing suicide in the school’s library.

March 24, 1998: Andrew Golden, 11, and Mitchell Johnson, 13, killed four girls and a teacher at a Jonesboro, Ark., middle school. Ten others were wounded in the shooting.

Oct. 16, 1991: George Hennard, 35, smashed his pickup through a Luby’s Cafeteria window in Killeen, Texas, and fired on the lunchtime crowd with a high-powered pistol, killing 22 people. At least 20 others were wounded.

Aug. 20, 1986: Postal worker Patrick Henry Sherrill killed 14 people in an Edmond, Okla., post office, then killed himself.

July 18, 1984: James Oliver Huberty, 41, an out-of-work security guard, shot and killed 21 people at a McDonald’s restaurant in San Ysidro, Calif. He was slain by police.

Aug. 1, 1966: Former Marine sharpshooter Charles Whitman climbed the stairs to the observation deck at the University of Texas Tower and began a 96-minute shooting spree, killing 14 people and wounding 31 before he was shot and killed. He had stabbed his mother and wife to death earlier.

Mass shootings/killings have been part of our society for a long while now... On and on it goes...


2 posted on 11/06/2009 12:07:09 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

“our culture”?

Speak for yourself.


5 posted on 11/06/2009 12:10:59 PM PST by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: Star Traveler

The difference is that the Orlando shooter didn’t do it because he thought his religion was telling him to. There will always been crazy people who decide to “resolve” a workplace (in his case) or a marriage or other dispute by killing everybody around them. But on your list, all the others - the Muslims - did it because of their religion, and they said so at the time.


7 posted on 11/06/2009 12:17:45 PM PST by livius
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To: Star Traveler

We’re definitely missing about 20-30 that have occurred in just the past year. Think about entire family murder/suicide that have taken place this year alone. Mass shootings were almost unheard of many years ago. They have become more and more frequent and is something that should not be accepted or numbed to. Something is very wrong, horribly wrong.


13 posted on 11/06/2009 12:45:22 PM PST by HollyB
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To: Star Traveler
“Feb. 12, 2007: Sulejman Talovic, 18, killed five and wounded four at the Trolley Square mall in Salt Lake City. He was then shot and killed by police.”

You failed to mention that he was Muslim. He received a hero’s burial in his home country.

27 posted on 11/06/2009 3:07:25 PM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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To: Star Traveler

It’s true that we have many homicides, but far more people die in auto accidents. It’s worth remembering that almost all killing sprees are stopped when someone else with a gun shows up. Until someone shows up armed, the killing spree continues.


28 posted on 11/06/2009 3:11:53 PM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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To: Star Traveler

Isn’t multiculturalism wonderful? < /sarc>


40 posted on 11/06/2009 5:24:00 PM PST by OrangeHoof ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Bend over suckahs".)
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To: Star Traveler

Being that this is Orlando, there is a good chance that he was Puerto Rican, NOT Cuban or Mexican. He could be none of the above, however.


45 posted on 11/06/2009 8:32:21 PM PST by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Star Traveler
Mass shootings/killings have been part of our society for a long while now... On and on it goes...

In America, sometimes people try to shoot a bunch of other people. Invariably, they are stopped. And the liberal media and anti-gunners try to increase the emotional impact of these tragedies in any way possible. One of those ways is to hammer on the use of the word "mass" - like you have.

But in communist countries, there have been true mass killings. Not thousands, or hundreds of thousands, but millions and millions of people killed. In fact, over a hundred million people killed. Those are true "mass" killings.

So when some "observer" like you describes and emphasizes a multiple shooting as a "mass killing," you are knowingly and deliberately trying to create an equivalency comparison with the genuine communist "mass killings" of millions of people.

And to help this comparison, you don't contrast the people who die in a multiple shooting with the hundred million gun owners in the U.S. who did not participate in that shooting, or the two million people each year who use guns to warn off a threat of physical violence without ever firing a shot.

So what's my point? Simply that you aren't anywhere near neutral, and you aren't a mere observer of statistics. That you have a very devious and sinister agenda - to play with words and concepts to try to poison people's understanding of their "culture" and "society," and thereby get a free and good people to think of themselves as the moral equivalents of mass murdering communists.

So to me, you not only slander peaceful, sane, gun-owning Americans, and endanger millions who are safe from threat each year because of their gun ownership, but you also slander and violate the memory of over a hundred million people who were victims of genuine mass killings.

That's just my way of saying that my "we" is not your "we."

46 posted on 11/07/2009 1:18:07 AM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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