Posted on 11/06/2009 12:04:46 PM PST by Star Traveler
ORLANDO, Fla. — Police in Orlando say a gunman has been apprehended after killing one person and injuring five others at a downtown office building where he was let go two years ago.
Police Chief Val Demings says 40-year-old Jason Rodriguez surrendered to police at his mother's home after officers saw him through a window and asked him to come out.
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If “we” (the posters here) included all the mass shootings that have occurred in our society, in this country, it would be a long list. And it is perpetrated upon ourselves, as these are people who live in this country and are part of this society and have been all their lives (for the most part, until we get to the more recent “Muslim terrorists” — but that hasn’t slowed down the mass shootings that our own people do on themselves, either...).
I don’t accept “we” for something somebody else does. You might belong to a collective that says it’s “we” that you belong to, but I don’t.
I take responsibility for me, not “we”.
LOL..., you need to read a bit better... :-)
Take a look back up at that statement. There’s no responsibility to be had for making a list. A list is just that — a list. And very simply put, if we were to include all the mass shootings in that list, it would be a very long list indeed.
And you’ll see that the “we” that is involved there, are posters who would make such a list... :-)
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But, aside from such a list that “we” might assemble here in these postings... there is a collective “we” to this society that we live in, even when I’m not directly responsible for someone else’s actions.
I have a family in which there is “a lot of we” involved ... of which I had no part in assembling... LOL... however, they are my family nonetheless (extended or by marriage and/or birth).
I probably have a number of criminals in there somewhere, too — maybe a drug dealer and who knows..., probably a felon or two, thrown in. Nonetheless, they still comprise the “we” of my family (wanted or not, and whether I had any part of them being there in the first place... :-) ...). There is a “we” that we all are a part of whether “we” like it or not... LOL (and regardless of any personal responsibility that you may have).
I probably have a number of criminals in there somewhere, too — maybe a drug dealer and who knows..., probably a felon or two, thrown in. Nonetheless, they still comprise the “we” of my family
WOW, Sounds like my family or people that I may know. ;)
You are into making busy work aren’t you.
Well, enjoy yourself. I get the feeling you enjoy crafts, and scrapbooking too, but that isn’t going to resolve the dilemma.
What will resolve the dilemma is getting the Leftist influence the “H” out of our system of government, and out of our media, schools, etc.
It’s the Leftist influence that is the root cause of the ugliness that exists throughout not only our Nation, but the entire World not already terribly disfigured by Islam.
... but that isn’t going to resolve the dilemma.
And what dilemma was that? Making a list of mass shootings? (or not to...) :-)
You failed to mention that he was Muslim. He received a hero’s burial in his home country.
It’s true that we have many homicides, but far more people die in auto accidents. It’s worth remembering that almost all killing sprees are stopped when someone else with a gun shows up. Until someone shows up armed, the killing spree continues.
> Something is very wrong, horribly wrong.
Our country has become a culture of death.
Life no longer has value.
Consider abortion, whereby over 40 million gestate babies have been murdered.
Consider the new “health care” bill, whereby critical care will be limited to the “most productive” to reduce cost.
The prevailing philosophy in our culture is this.
* Everything came from nothing out of nowhere for no apparent reason.
* Life is just a curious side effect of an unknowing and uncaring cosmos.
* When you die, you are just so much compost.
* The best you can hope for is a life of self-gratification and a painless extinction.
If you’re one of those who believes he’s not getting his, why not just go out and blow away a bunch of people you consider to be instrumental in denying your self-gratification?
THAT is a very big part of what I believe is horribly wrong.
It wasn’t my list. It came from a news source. Of course, “we” could add to it and expand it any way we like, too... :-)
Until someone shows up armed, the killing spree continues.
Well, the interesting thing about that list that I copied from the news source, it shows a geat number (if not a majority) killing themselves, after they had killed all that they had wanted to. It's not necessarily someone stopping them that ends the killing, but that they ended the killing themselves and then committed suicide. In fact, the one that I added to that list, from another FReeper asking me to (the school in Kentucky), the shooter simply quit and dropped the gun and no one was armed around him to stop him.
For whatever reason, when the shooters are done, they simply quit and give themselves up and/or commit suicide. That's what happened today. The shooter simply quit shooting, went to his mother's house and gave himself up.
That was the case with the Virginia Tech killer. AFTER people showed up with guns, he killed himself. I think that is usually the way it goes.
In the Fort Hood murders, the murderer was stopped by a lady with a gun. There is no indication that he would have stopped on his own.
I think it was a slanted list. It went back into the 60s to make their case (a long time). It omitted more recent murders perpetrated by Muslims. What was the source of the list that you shared?
Yeah, there are a couple in that list, like that — but the overwhelming majority simply stopped on their own and killed themselves or gave up. Just count the list and see for yourself.
I agree with you on this post. The first paragraph would be a very good first step.
It was on a news article from Google, after doing a search on the search terms “Orlando shooting” (under “News”). I didn’t bother with the source of the article because it was all stuff that I remembered as happening and I knew it was public information (at least I remembered it in my little head... :-) ...).
Now.., as far as making a more complete and comprehensive list — by all means, “go for it”... :-)
I would encourage that to make a more comprehensive view of what happens in these things.
Do a google search on the first item on the list (the complete paragraph) and you’ll find many source links for the same thing (it’s in various places, I see...).
I just read all the posts in this conversation to my wife, and we are laughing so hard it’s difficult to type.
Good night, and good luck.
I’ve always found Free Republic to be quite entertaining, which is why I keep coming back... :-)
Isn’t multiculturalism wonderful? < /sarc>
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