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Caterpillar Controversy Discloses Deep Evolutionary Disagreement
ICR News ^ | November 5, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 11/05/2009 6:15:26 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

In August 2009, retired University of Liverpool marine biologist Donald Williamson officially challenged the standard Darwinian interpretation of caterpillar origins. His paper was fast-tracked to publication by a “high-placed advocate,”[1] but shortly afterward his ideas were rebutted in the very same journal. While this back-and-forth exchange has sparked intense criticism over the submission and review processes that were used, the situation also reveals core problems with broad-scale evolution...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: antiscienceevos; belongsinreligion; blogspam; creation; darwindronesexposed; evolution; evoreligionexposed; intelligentdesign; notasciencetopic; propellerbeanie; science; spammer; templeofdarwin
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To: editor-surveyor
You can’t even change your own diaper.

At least he doesn't make jokes about diabled veterans.

81 posted on 11/05/2009 8:36:55 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: editor-surveyor

>>BTW, its called music theory, not musical theory.<<

And yet, like so many things, I know it and you don’t.

My sides are hurting from the laughs you are giving me tonight.

Did someone put you up to this? Is this a joke?


82 posted on 11/05/2009 8:37:54 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003
The Temple of Darwin was forced to pretend that abiogenesis has nothing to do with evolution because all their attempts to explain the origin of life via unintelligent causes have failed. Tell me FreeDUMB, if the evos ever found a naturalistic explanation for the origin of life, do you suppose they would still claim that it has nothing to do with evolution? LOL!


83 posted on 11/05/2009 8:42:13 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: editor-surveyor
They do, each and every one of them. You know nothing of Christians or their schools.

Here's one that doesn't. You are busted. http://www.summit.org/curriculum/ms/christian/

84 posted on 11/05/2009 8:42:20 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts

You are running that crap again?

It has been debunked 6 ways from Sunday.

New Scientist is an opinion rag that blows with the wind (and blows in general).

I think you first ran that junk a year or more ago...


85 posted on 11/05/2009 8:42:23 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Where did you get that ID cartoon?


86 posted on 11/05/2009 8:43:22 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: aruanan

Precisely.


87 posted on 11/05/2009 8:43:56 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: ColdWater; GodGunsGuts

>>Where did you get that ID cartoon?<<

Yep — it instantiates the ID perspective and yet some people think it can somehow be used against those who actually understand science.

The irony is palpable and the laughs just keep coming.


88 posted on 11/05/2009 8:46:30 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: GodGunsGuts; OldNavyVet

>>The Temple of Darwin is the modern day embodiment of the Inquisition. They utilize the communist ACLU and the courts to prevent students from learning about the origins debate, prevent Creation and ID science papers from being published in the mainstream science journals, and attempt to destroy the careers of any scientist who dares to champion Creation/ID, or who otherwise challenges darwood’s evo-religious creation myth.<<

And, as usual, you ignore the simple challenge presented before you — present an alternative SCIENTIFIC THEORY to TToE and the world will be your oyster.

I am sure that philosophical sophomoric musing tickle your fancy but in the grown up world they don’t cut it.

Bring the real debate or shut up.


89 posted on 11/05/2009 8:56:26 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: GodGunsGuts
the fact that darwood's evo-religious creation myth is being falsified on all sides.

My God frowns on liars. What does your God think about liars.

90 posted on 11/05/2009 9:33:50 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


91 posted on 11/05/2009 9:34:05 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: freedumb2003

You sure are slow on the uptake, FreeDUMB. I have been putting forward biblical creation as the alternative to darwood’s discredited anti-science creation myth for years. Where have you been? I think all the wood between your ears has finally petrified.


92 posted on 11/05/2009 9:44:57 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: ColdWater

Who is your God, CW?


93 posted on 11/05/2009 9:46:01 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: editor-surveyor
Those of us that understand and use science and technology laugh at you; especially you, since you have zero understanding yet wish to mix in and pretend.

This from someone who is a geocentrist and thinks that appendicitis can be remedied by diet or prayer. LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!

94 posted on 11/05/2009 9:46:07 PM PST by Wacka
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To: Alamo-Girl

Hi, AG

Nice to see you.

I know you know I am defending Conservatism against those who will demean it by tossing modern science out the door.

And you know my love for God is constantly tested. This is just the latest...


95 posted on 11/05/2009 9:46:34 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Who is your God, CW?

My God is not a 'Who'.

96 posted on 11/05/2009 9:50:18 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts

>>You sure are slow on the uptake, FreeDUMB. I have been putting forward biblical creation as the alternative to darwood’s discredited anti-science creation myth for years. Where have you been? I think all the wood between your ears has finally petrified.<<

Your assertion about what you think you have posted is meaningless. Lets look at the tale of the tape: Batboy posts by ggg — many. Actual science posts by ggg: zero.

I would run the numbers, but division by zero isn’t allowed by euclidean math.


97 posted on 11/05/2009 9:50:47 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: ColdWater

What a laugh. Isn’t it obvious that the evos infuse the Universe with miraculous powers? After all, your evo co-religionists believe that life comes from non-life, intelligence from non-intelligence, and complex, specified, super-sophisticated digital DNA from inanimate pond scum plus lightening. What a bunch of dodos.


98 posted on 11/05/2009 9:52:48 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Unfortunately billions of dollars are being spent to find life, past or present, “out there” somewhere. In the place most favorable and conducive to life its origin cannot be explained but perhaps the Darwinists can make the case for life on ultra inhospitable Mars.

And if none can be found, well, maybe NASA can terraform the planet and create their own Eden...And guess who gets to play the god?


99 posted on 11/05/2009 9:54:34 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: ColdWater

Ok, explain the attributes of your unintelligent god.


100 posted on 11/05/2009 9:59:52 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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