This is what it will look like...
Posted on 11/04/2009 1:07:04 PM PST by Mozilla
Even before a Senate committee could begin marking up the "Kerry-Boxer" climate bill, Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) himself announced a new "track" of negotiations over climate policy that makes his original bill look somewhat irrelevant.
Kerry, appearing at the U.S. Capitol with Sens. Lindsay O. Graham (R-S.C.) and Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.), said the three legislators would work with business groups and the White House to forge a compromise climate measure that could get 60 votes in the Senate.
These negotiations would be separate from the work that six different Senate committees are doing on climate legislation, including the markup that the Environment and Public Works committee was supposed to begin Tuesday, the senators said. Republican committee members, demanding more Environmental Protection Agency analysis of the bill's impacts, are boycotting that markup, so progress on the legislation has stalled.
Kerry said that the senators were not circumventing that committee's process or ignoring the bill being marked up -- which bears his name, along with that of Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.). "We're going to take the best [of the bill the committee produces], and we're going to build on it," he said.
Kerry gave few details about when he and the other senators would be done with their work. "When and how it becomes a piece of legislation will be determined by Harry Reid," he said.
Kerry, Graham and Lieberman offered few details about the elements of a climate bill they considered non-negotiable. Graham said that the bill should protect the climate, but also allow for more offshore drilling, an expansion of nuclear energy and an emphasis on "clean coal" technology.
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These A-hole crooks are jumping on the money train with algore and this phoney baloney hoax will put TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS in the pockets of Wall Street brokers with the coming carbon credit exchange. Every dime of that money will come out of the pockets of consumers and taxpayers.
What do we need a bill for? Congress needs to keep its nose out of my business.
I want these politicized ‘scientists’ and MARXISTS PROSECUTED. It was obvious to anyone who could rub three brain cells together that this was a hoax and an outright leftist power grab.
Can the ManBearPig be prosecuted? Racketeering....something. Please.
Follow the money .
A bad track and a really bad track.
Let me see if I have this straight.
So now on a bill with Graham attached, they have to bring in Lieberman as a sop to the right?
So why’s Graham even there? Because of the theoretical “R” attached to him? But they’ve just established by the need to bring in Lieberman that Graham’s “R” is meaningless
Huh? When?
this faggot was just re-elected and has 5 more years...unless the SC people are able to have a recall vote....
This is what it will look like...
Could it be that they missed the point of yesterday’s elections?
Uber RINO Lindsey PingSince ALGore is a “carbon billionaire” its time some enterprising attorney files a class action lawsuit against this charlatan on behalf of all Americans. Make him attempt to prove his lies in a court of law.
The only compromise I want to see on Cap & Tax is THEY lose, we WIN!
A bunch of crap. We don’t need a climate bill. We need congress to leave us alone.
Not to mention a fag. Oops. Hope that doesn’t count as a federal hate crime.
Since we can’t get this DIABLO out of the senate for years, we need to force him to switch parties. I’d rather be deeper in the minority than have our numbers inflated by these loathsome Visitors.
...the three legislators would work with business groups and the White House to forge a compromise climate measure
separate from the work that six different Senate committees are doing on climate legislation
Kerry said ... "we're going to [cannibalize and] build on" [the other Kerry bill]
Kerry gave few details ... "When and how it becomes a piece of legislation will be determined by Harry Reid,"
Harry Reid (D-Nev.) would meld the various climate proposals into a single bill ... six committees working on related bills ... someone would have to stitch them all together.
committee bills would not be the only things shaping the final product
Kerry, Graham and Lieberman offered few details...
Lieberman said ... that the scheme had "a lot of moving parts you could negotiate on."
Gee. Remember when a legislator would write a bill, an actual bill, and then try to get people to support it, and then discuss and amend it, and then try to get it passed.
It seems like it was only a few years ago that there was some, at least roughly, orderly process more or less along such lines.
When did it all become a nebulous crap storm of "bills" that, like some kind of crazy Schrodinger's Cat, supposedly exist until someone asks to read them, and then suddenly they don't. "Oh, yeah, we sent it to the CBO to be scored and everything, so it's a bill, but it's not really a bill, because it's just a package of 'concepts' that we'll choose from and 'stitch together' later, in a room with a locked door..." Bills mysteriously balloon from one thousand to two thousand pages overnight. Votes are held before they're even typed up, i.e. without the bills physically existing. And on and on and on until your head's ready to explode.
It doesn't even have the order and coherence and aesthetic of a sausage factory. The sausage factory analogy no longer works. It's superseded. It's whole point, in fact, has become utterly inapplicable. The sausage is there. You can see it being made. And it's salami or it's bologna or it's bratwurst. It's some definite something, and there's some definite recipe to make it.
We need a new analogy for the contemporary legislative "process." I can't even imagine what it would be. Ummm, how about, "watching legislation being made is like listening to stoned teenagers discussing philosophy." Best I can come up with off the top of my head, but even drugged, stuporous ramblings don't begin to capture the illegitimacy of legislating today.
The U.S. Military, very unfortunately, is a breeding ground for pro-big-government RINO politicians.
Graham thinks we’re all stupid cattle.
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