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How Life Works [immutable laws of nature point Creation/Intelligent design...HTML version!]
Journal of Creation ^ | Alex Williams

Posted on 11/01/2009 4:02:49 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Life is not a naturalistic phenomenon with unlimited evolutionary potential as Darwin proposed. It is intelligently designed, ruled by immutable laws, and survives only because it has a built-in

facilitated variation mechanism for continually adapting to internal and external challenges and changes. The essential components are: functional molecular architecture and machinery, modular switching cascades that control the machinery and a signal network that coordinates everything. All three are required for survival, so they must have been present from the beginning—a conclusion that demands intelligent design. Life’s built-in ability to adapt and diversify looks like Darwinian evolution, but it is not. Darwin’s theory of speciation via natural selection of natural variation is correct in principle, but it cannot be extrapolated to universal ancestry. What we see instead is different kinds of organisms having been designed for different kinds of lifestyles, with enormous potential for diversification built-in at the beginning, but with time this potential for diversification has become depleted by selection and degraded by mutations so that we are now rapidly heading towards extinction. Intelligent design and rapid decay point to recent Creation and Fall, as the Bible tells us...

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1 posted on 11/01/2009 4:02:49 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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Ping!


2 posted on 11/01/2009 4:05:52 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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how dare you post logical arguments for creation and inteligent design..

let’s wait for the freep ‘experts’ (atheist, et al) to get the real story.


3 posted on 11/01/2009 4:07:45 PM PST by raygunfan
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To: GodGunsGuts

that’s pretty broad-brushed

I thought life was based upon the interaction of living beings that interact, that are composed of atoms and molecules that interact, that are composed of atoms that interact, that are composed of nuclear particles that interact, that are composed of sub-atomic particles that interact, etc, etc,.....mmmmm. Further, some of the laws of interaction have been shown to be, within man’s capability, discoverable.

IMHO, misguided as it may be, that is what the creator did create. Stories about an ‘intelligent designer’ monkeying with the ‘laws of nature’ are just habble-babble.

“The essential components are: functional molecular architecture and machinery, modular switching cascades that control the machinery and a signal network that coordinates everything. All three are required for survival, so they must have been present from the beginning”

parts 2 and 3......habble-babble.


4 posted on 11/01/2009 4:15:15 PM PST by jbp1 (be nice now)
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For some background to better understand the paper above, please consider the following articles by the same author:

Life’s irreducible structure—Part 1: autopoiesis

Life’s irreducible structure—Part 2: naturalistic objections

Astonishing DNA complexity demolishes neo-Darwinism

Facilitated variation: A new paradigm emerges in biology

mutations: evolution’s engine becomes evolution’s end!

5 posted on 11/01/2009 4:15:42 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

No! No! No! Everything is chaos and chance! Evolution controls all life, except where it doesn’t and it just is...sort of...like...ummm...chaos...except there’s order, even to evolution...but that doesn’t prove...anything...


6 posted on 11/01/2009 4:16:03 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: jbp1

For some background, see #5...expecially the first two links.

PS This paper is based on cutting-edge research, and if you read for understanding, I think you will find the the new biology present insurmountable problems for neo-Darwinian evoltuion.


7 posted on 11/01/2009 4:19:33 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: jbp1

For some background, see #5...expecially the first two links.

PS This paper is based on cutting-edge research, and if you read for understanding, I think you will find the the new biology present insurmountable problems for neo-Darwinian evoltuion.


8 posted on 11/01/2009 4:19:34 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Eagles6

You fortot necessity! :o)


9 posted on 11/01/2009 4:20:54 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Excuse me; I must have missed the part where the author presented any empirical evidence to support a 6 day creation, or a 6,000 year old earth.


10 posted on 11/01/2009 4:29:41 PM PST by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Now we’re talking!!!

This is so beautiful and I can actually understand it....well I knew it all along....but couldn’t quite put it into words.

thank you, thank you, thank you.


11 posted on 11/01/2009 4:30:34 PM PST by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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My pleasure :o)


12 posted on 11/01/2009 4:32:20 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
I didn't see an asteroid hit but almost a third of a species of dinosaurs was recently wiped out!

“New Analyses Of Dinosaur Growth May Wipe Out One-third Of Species
ScienceDaily (Oct. 31, 2009) — Paleontologists from the University of California, Berkeley, and the Museum of the Rockies have wiped out two species of dome-headed dinosaur, one of them named three years ago — with great fanfare — after Hogwarts, the school attended by Harry Potter.”

Hmmmm....Spiney the Elder and Spineless the Younger are really the same species? Oopsasaurous Hubris?

13 posted on 11/01/2009 4:32:57 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

You lost me on this one...was it perhaps intended for a different thread?


14 posted on 11/01/2009 4:34:27 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I thought it was interesting and at least......well I just liked it! But I’ll keep it for recycling.


15 posted on 11/01/2009 4:44:14 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
But to understand necessity one would have to have memory.

"But memory is just like binary code printed on a circuit board so there is no consciousness and we really don't understand, I mean really understand, what we are communicating because it's just instinct and instinct just is, it wasn't designed or anything.

(Semi-verbatim, brief conversation with a drunk, stoned and unattractive female Philosophy major.)

16 posted on 11/01/2009 4:46:05 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: GodGunsGuts
"What we see instead is different kinds of organisms having been designed for different kinds of lifestyles, with enormous potential for diversification built-in at the beginning, but with time this potential for diversification has become depleted by selection and degraded by mutations so that we are now rapidly heading towards extinction."

Exactly the opposite of the way things actually are.

Why am I not surprised?

.

You first out the door, by all means.

17 posted on 11/01/2009 4:51:33 PM PST by NicknamedBob (Obam Government says, "Get used to being poor." / America responds, "Ain't gonna happen.")
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To: GodGunsGuts
but with time this potential for diversification has become depleted by selection and degraded by mutations so that we are now rapidly heading towards extinction.

As I've said before, polyploidy negates your dark, ignorant, and incorrect theory of life.

18 posted on 11/01/2009 5:13:18 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
"Ping!"

Beep!

19 posted on 11/01/2009 5:29:56 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: Moonman62

This is like the second or third time you have brought up polyploidy, so I would imagine you think it somehow salvages neo-Darwinism. If this is indeed the case, I welcome your explanation of the same. You could start by demonstrating how polyploidy supposedly “negates” the OP.


20 posted on 11/01/2009 6:56:24 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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