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AP IMPACT: Statisticians reject global cooling (find no evidence of global cooling) ..`Sigh`..
AP on Yahoo ^ | 10/26/09 | Seth Borenstein - ap

Posted on 10/26/2009 12:55:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON – Have you heard that the world is now cooling instead of warming? You may have seen some news reports on the Internet or heard about it from a provocative new book.

Only one problem: It's not true, according to an analysis of the numbers done by several independent statisticians for The Associated Press.

The case that the Earth might be cooling partly stems from recent weather. Last year was cooler than previous years. It's been a while since the super-hot years of 1998 and 2005. So is this a longer climate trend or just weather's normal ups and downs?

In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent statisticians and asked them to look for trends, without telling them what the numbers represented. The experts found no true temperature declines over time.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: apimpact; capandtrade; envirojunkscience; globalcooling; globalwarming; hoax; reject; statisticians; unitednations
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To: NormsRevenge

Hey birdbrains, go outside!


21 posted on 10/26/2009 1:18:55 PM PDT by kempster
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To: NormsRevenge
As a scientist I can unequivocaly sat that ther are 3 types of liars

1) stupid liars
2) damn liars
3) statisticians

We had such a foolish example of such in college where a statistician on be half of my sociology class proved that Fundamentalist Christians where not highly intelligent from bogus survey of college attendees from Ivy league schools. I challenged the result of the professor and made him amend that conclusions to read that Fundamentalist Christians smart enough to avoid Ivy League schools. The class cheered because we weren't an Ivy School.

22 posted on 10/26/2009 1:19:36 PM PDT by Pharmer (Palin in 2012! We are so screwed! Go Phillies!!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

More ignorant propaganda from AP. The Earth has been cooling since 1998. There was no “super hot 2005”. It is a lie.


23 posted on 10/26/2009 1:20:24 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Note to the GOP: Do not count your votes until they are cast.)
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To: NormsRevenge

2005 wasn’t that one of the times Hansen got caught “cooking the books” using September’s temperatures for October.

Even the head of the UN IPCC has acknowledged the world has been cooling.


24 posted on 10/26/2009 1:21:28 PM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: NormsRevenge

What data was given to these folks? The true data belie the notion of the last decade being the warmest on record. To the contrary it shows lower temps all around. More junk science by those with an agenda


25 posted on 10/26/2009 1:21:28 PM PDT by the long march
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To: NormsRevenge; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; enough_idiocy; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

26 posted on 10/26/2009 1:25:20 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (Limit all U.S. politicians to two terms: One in office and one in prison! to s)
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To: maryz
Presumably all temperature data from the beginning of the world . . . just to make it fair?

Yes it's true and where any data wasn't available they got the computers to fill in the missing data and then handed it to the statisticians.

There has been so much cherry-picking of the data that it better be made public and subject to testing otherwise it should be ignored. There has been enough fiddling of the data ( Vide: Yamal tree ring data) that no set of experts can be trusted without complete independent verification of the data.

27 posted on 10/26/2009 1:26:27 PM PDT by Timocrat
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To: NormsRevenge
If you get to select the data (as opposed to defining the criteria from which they are to be derived), it's not a "blind" test.

Idiots. Or rather: they think we are.

You know how to get a "hockey stick" graph line showing an "undeniable trend"? Extract over 265 data samples and use the 3 of them that best tend to prove your hypothesis. That is the precise genesis of "Global Warming". Sane people and real scientists call that a "scam".

28 posted on 10/26/2009 1:26:55 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: MNJohnnie; xcamel
More ignorant propaganda from AP. The Earth has been cooling since 1998. There was no “super hot 2005”. It is a lie.

They are using the fraudulent NOAA Jim Hansen data only, so of course they found no cooling trend as the numbers (like the super hot 2005) are BS

If they were to use the RSS, UAH or even the Hadley they would have come up with the real answer.

More realistic numbers from the Hadley

Using real numbers, you don't need PHD statisticians to find the cooling trend, because any 6 year old can spot it

29 posted on 10/26/2009 1:28:43 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Gondring
But you do make a good point that is described in the article that cherry-picking the data isn’t the right approach.

That was quite a funny line coming from the article. AGW is all about cherry picking the data.

When the next ice age comes, billions will die of starvation within the first year.

30 posted on 10/26/2009 1:33:21 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Need4Truth

There’s no significant evidence whatsoever for global warming caused by human activity. Obama just can’t back off of a position when he’s wrong, and I would bet that his staffers are giving him all kinds of incomplete, incorrect, and biased analysis about global warming theory.


31 posted on 10/26/2009 1:37:05 PM PDT by your local physicist (Gridlock is good...in Washington.)
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To: NormsRevenge
So the dire ice-age predictions of 30 years were wrong?
I'm glad Al Gore has all that “proven science” for us to rely on now! ;-)
32 posted on 10/26/2009 1:40:24 PM PDT by charles1252
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To: NormsRevenge

The White House has a big problem with all the extreme, poorly researched positions that Obama took back during his election campaign to appeal to “progrssives” and the moonbat base of the democrat party. He got way out on a limb on climate change, health care, and withdrawal from Iraq, and now he’s finding it difficult to climb back in off that limb and take less extreme positions. That’s what happens when politicians are just concerned about getting elected and have no interest in finding the truth.


33 posted on 10/26/2009 1:41:21 PM PDT by your local physicist (Gridlock is good...in Washington.)
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To: TheDon
When the next ice age comes, billions will die of starvation within the first year.

Not to mention all the people unable to outrun the advancing ice!

34 posted on 10/26/2009 1:45:10 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Could it be the “warming” and “cooling” have canceled each other out?

Oh my god! It's global climate...stasis! That'll make movies like 'The Day After Tomorrow' awful dull. Damn! No one is going to make any money off of global stasis.

35 posted on 10/26/2009 1:49:20 PM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (Eat right...exercise...die anyway.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Furnish this data to the public as well as information about where it came from. I smell cherry picking.

LOL...the links to the data are right at the bottom of the story and show that it's not cherry-picked!

Oh, yeah, that 1998 is not a statistically anomaly...nope... </sarc>

36 posted on 10/26/2009 1:51:52 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: mmichaels1970

Global Milding causes Global Mildew, which is what will kill us all if we don’t act now and embrace Change.


37 posted on 10/26/2009 1:52:23 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Could it be the “warming” and “cooling” have canceled each other out?

No, as it's hotter now than it was 10 years ago, despite the supposed "cooling trend." The "cooling trend" is really just a reduction in the warming trend, not actually getting cooler.

38 posted on 10/26/2009 1:53:00 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: LeonardFMason
WTF!? The AP is MAKING news and then reporting it. How soon before the AP starts killing people and claims there is a serial killer on the loose?

Forget the cooling debate: the AP's hired staticians have just determined there is no global warming either. Do they realize that?

39 posted on 10/26/2009 2:02:19 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: kempster
Hey birdbrains, go outside!

LMAO, best one of the day (so far)!

40 posted on 10/26/2009 2:02:45 PM PDT by jpsb
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