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Re: Scozzafava Campaign in Damage-Control Mode [Mark Steyn]
Steyn Online ^ | 20 Oct 09 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 10/20/2009 2:00:10 PM PDT by xzins

Re: Scozzafava Campaign in Damage-Control Mode [Mark Steyn]

Well, I'm with The Weekly Standard on this one. When a GOP candidate with an entourage winds up calling the cops over a reporter from a pro-GOP publication, that's one seriously dumb campaign — and the ludicrous post-911 call spin only makes it more pathetic.

But here's my bigger thought: After the great summer surge of town halls and tea parties, the Republican Party gets to take the first electoral test of the new public mood and what does it offer the public for a reliable Republican district? A pro-tax pro-card-check liberal Republican as liberal as the liberal Democrat but, unlike the latter, unable even to articulate her positions without calling in the constabulary.

Don't expect too much from 2010. On present form, even if Obamacare leads to ebola outbreaks in 43 states, the GOP will still manage to screw it up.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: gop; hoffan; liberal; marksteyn; ny2009; ny23; scozzafava; steyn
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To: xzins

They don’t call them the Stupid Party for nothing.


61 posted on 10/20/2009 5:16:35 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sarah Palin -- I love her because she freaks out all the right people.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; Rush Limbaugh
The GOP is dead!

I hate to say "I told you so", Rush...........

62 posted on 10/20/2009 7:58:25 PM PDT by MamaLucci (It's Mourning In America........)
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To: NFHale

I agree with you on the stakes. Petraeus is reported to have described himself as a Rockefeller Republican.

Not sure why people assume a general without any political experience or revealed philosophy is the the answer.


63 posted on 10/20/2009 8:45:03 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: NFHale

That’s what I don’t understand. If you agree with the Democrats, why not join them?

And of course that begs the question why back them if you’re the Republican leadership?

What’s the difference in this and the CEO of Ford telling his directors and employees to only buy GM cars?

Either you want your brand to be successful and grow or you don’t.


64 posted on 10/20/2009 9:13:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: bamahead; Rummyfan; kellynla; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...
A series of belated Pings for some great Steyn.

I was traveling and have not been able to ping you as I should.

I hope to do better!

Some other fine Steyn articles are available here;

BRIDGE OF SIZE

Mark Steyn: A Tale of Two Soundbites - Which one sounds “divisive” to you?

Limbaugh bad, Mao good

Thinking about the old Ignatieff [LIGHTS OUT MORE "RIGHTS", LESS LIBERTY]





On or off, please FReepmail me.

Cheers,

knewshound

knewshounds blog

65 posted on 10/21/2009 9:02:49 AM PDT by knews_hound (Credo Quia Absurdium--take nothing seriously unless it is absurd E. Clampus Vitus)
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To: Captain Kirk
Steyn has “discovered” the virtues of limited government and suspicion of executive power only since Obama took office. Before that, he was one of the biggest defenders of Bush’s expansive, anti-civil liberty pro-government policies. Why should he be taken seriously now?

Clearly you have not read "America Alone". Mark was clearly for limited government at home but an aggressive stance abroad, and he still is, as far as I can tell.

66 posted on 10/21/2009 9:22:31 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Rush Hudson Limbaugh, Mmm Mmm Mmm)
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To: xzins

“even if Obamacare leads to ebola outbreaks in 43 states, the GOP will still manage to screw it up.”

The GOP could f**k up a wet dream!


67 posted on 10/21/2009 10:08:28 AM PDT by Grunthor (Thank YOU George Bush, for giving us the GOP of today!)
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To: knews_hound

BTTT


68 posted on 10/21/2009 10:26:25 AM PDT by hattend (Sarah Palin's mob minion - Mob Name: Hatman the Hitman)
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To: knews_hound
I liked this commentary by Stein from todays NRO The Corner:

Enough [Mark Steyn] On NY-23, I'm with Fred Thompson and Jack Fowler: A Conservative can win in a three-way race, and Doug Hoffman is deserving of your support.

Newt really needs to re-think his support for Dede Scozzafava. This isn't RINO but DIABLO - Democrat In All But Label Only. It's not one of those "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" bi-swinger deals — not when you're pro-"stimulus", pro-cash-for-clunkers. And the reductive argument that her sole redeeming value - a willingness to vote for John Boehner as Speaker — is reason enough to support her is silly in a special election. If he's ever Speaker, Boehner won't be till January 2011, and it's 12 months premature for Newt to be telling voters they need to suck it up and accept that a handful of Jim-Jeffords-in-embryo-form are necessary for the Republican tide.

But beyond all that there's now a competence issue: Since the cop-calling and its aftermath, the candidate has demonstrated that there is no case for her whatsoever. At this stage in the nation's affairs, Washington doesn't need another incoherent buffoon insulated by a phalanx of thin-skinned twerps already guarding her like a 30-year incumbent for whom routine questions are an outrageous form of lèse-majesté. By any reasonable measure, this candidate is unworthy of a seat in the national legislature.

The tea parties and town halls were a response not just to Obama but to the 2006/2008 GOP. If Dede Scozzafava wins, it's a loss — a serious loss — for those voters who believe irresponsible spending by feckless federal mediocrities will deny future generations any shot at the American Dream. If Doug Hoffman wins, as I believe he can, great. But, if he doesn't and the seat falls to the Dem, it will be a cautionary tale for party leaders who, as in NY-23, make choices that confirm everything a disgruntled base thinks of them.

69 posted on 10/21/2009 10:27:43 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: RJL

Borrowing that for my tagline, thanks!


70 posted on 10/21/2009 11:03:04 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Democrats scare me, the Republicans anger me." RJL)
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To: xzins
Is the party really this stupid?

It sure seems that way...

71 posted on 10/21/2009 11:40:13 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal NFL doesn't think Rush is good enough for them? They feel the same about us-BOYCOTT)
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To: Jim Robinson; pissant; RJL; Virginia Ridgerunner; wmfights; Brookhaven; Political Junkie Too; ...
BTTT

I missed this yesterday. I was about to repost it.

9YearLurker wrote:
And while I’m still firmly in the ‘Reform the GOP’ camp, I can understand those who have given up on it.
I’m with you on the “reform the GOP” approach. But they have to understand there are consequences for this kind of stupidity. And in this race, a Hoffman victory should be possible. In a race like this, in a district like this, if the Republicans are stuck on stupid, I do think conservatives should play to win.
MrB wrote:
Question - why didn’t someone challenge this RINO in the primaries?
There was no primary for this race. The parties selected their candidate for this special election to fill the vacancy when John McHugh was named Secretary of the Army.

Doug Hoffman is the Conservative alternative in this race (or Hoffman by PayPal).

Markos Moulitsas, founder of The Daily Kos has endorsed Scozzafava. Dede Scozzafava has also been endorsed by NYSUT, the largest labor union in New York, and an affiliate of the National Education Association.

Scozzafava also holds these positions:

Scozzafava has also run in past elections on the Working Families Party (a progressive party associated with ACORN) line on the ballot.

This lady isn’t a RINO, she is a big “R” libeRal democRat.

There are also 17 RINOs in the house who have donated funds to this LibeRal democRat's campaign. They include Boehner and Cantor. I don’t have a full list, but I will be looking for it. These unprincipled RINO enablers should be targeted for elimination in the primaries next year.

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From the desk of
cc2k:
I support Doug Hoffman for Congress (PayPal).

Please, spread the word about this important election on November 3, 2009 in New York’s 23rd congressional district.

72 posted on 10/21/2009 11:45:36 AM PDT by cc2k (I have donated to Doug Hoffman, have you? [check my recent reply posts])
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To: dirtboy
Just goes to show that the East Coast RINOs would rather lose than have a conservative win.

BTTT!

The only thing is frankly for all of us to joint the assembly movement, retake the party from within...only vote for assembly candidates....and get the word out about the "Establishment".

73 posted on 10/21/2009 11:46:30 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I can't believe that the RNC sent these fools $650,000 and that Newt actually endorsed her.

I can. They did ZERO background checks.

And when confronted with her KOZ connections...instead of dropping her like a hot potato...they dig in their heels...

74 posted on 10/21/2009 11:48:27 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: knews_hound

thanks for the ping


75 posted on 10/21/2009 12:00:11 PM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal NFL doesn't think Rush is good enough for them? They feel the same about us-BOYCOTT)
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To: xzins

If you mean by “consistent conservative” that he was a consistent critic of Bush’s big government policies (both in the area of economic and civil liberty), I’d appreciate some examples.


76 posted on 10/21/2009 1:42:44 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

You’re going to have to tell me things that Steyn has not supported that you think he should have supported. He is a columnist and not a politician. He writes articles. He doesn’t vote in a legislature.

Which subjects are you concerned that he has written the wrong things on? We can’t very well discuss what he hasn’t written on.


77 posted on 10/21/2009 3:03:54 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Newt is stabbing me in the back now.......Yikes.


78 posted on 10/21/2009 6:09:15 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: knews_hound
Great links thanks.

Mark Steyn tells it like it is.

79 posted on 10/21/2009 9:06:06 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: xzins

His main offense was not writing “wrong things” about Bush’s big government policies but ignoring them (which is even worse). If you want to take him seriously now that he is criticizing Obama’s similar policies, that is your choice.


80 posted on 10/22/2009 7:32:05 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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