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Markey, Coffman seek funds for shooting ranges (Federal Pittman-Robertson funds!)
Greeley Tribune (Colo.) ^ | October 16, 2009 | NA

Posted on 10/16/2009 11:41:05 AM PDT by neverdem

Two Colorado congressional members have introduced a resolution designed to improve and create more public shooting ranges for gun owners and sportsmen.

U.S. Rep. Betsy Markey, D-Colo., and Rep. Mike Coffman, R-Colo., have introduced the Target Practice and Marksmanship Training Support Act with co-sponsor Rep. Walt Minnick, D-Idaho. It will allow states to allocate a greater proportion of their federal Pittman-Robertson funds for recreational shooting and target practice by providing more flexibility in funding to help construct and maintain safe public shooting ranges. It also limits the liability exposure to federal land agencies regarding the use of their land for target practice or marksmanship training.

Currently, states are allocated funds for a variety of wildlife purposes under the Pittman-Robertson Act, which established a 10 percent excise tax on firearms, hunting equipment and ammunition, and distributes these funds to states for hunter safety programs and the development and maintenance of shooting ranges, among other things.

The resolution will amend the Pittman-Robertson Act by adjusting the funding limitations so that states have more funds available to create and maintain shooting ranges.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; betsymarkey; markey; marxist; pittmanrobertson
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1 posted on 10/16/2009 11:41:05 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

What? Markey is co-sponsoring this? Well, whatever. I hope it passes. We need more ranges out here in CO.


2 posted on 10/16/2009 11:43:06 AM PDT by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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To: neverdem

Hey how about -

1) Require all HS to have at least 1 Jr ROTC program
2) Require all Community Centers to have a .22 range for target practice
3) Require all Selective Service registrants to undergo 8 hrs of class instruction on the Constitution, call up procedures, medical / educational records update, first aid, basic firearms safety.

Time for the /sarc tag

Folks, this is GOVERNMENT SPENDING by the Federal Government. It is not needed and it can’t be afforded right now .... no matter how well meaning.

STOP THE SPENDING
STOP THE GROWTH OF GOVERNMENT


3 posted on 10/16/2009 11:46:53 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: neverdem

I had a great public shooting range that was on BLM land, and now it is closed off because environmentalists didn’t want people riding four wheelers in the area, even though the ground is sand, and the degree of erosion caused by four wheelers is negligible.


4 posted on 10/16/2009 11:47:06 AM PDT by pallis
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To: ironwill

Nobody in CO knows how to open or operate a shooting range as a private business? How are yall fixed for Dairy Queens? Maybe the government can send you a few of those.


5 posted on 10/16/2009 11:53:37 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: george76; jan in Colorado; colorado tanker; coloradan; dljordan; Colorado Buckeye; GraceG; ...
BANG! All these rats sponsoring or voting for pro Second Amendment bills such as the Wicker Amendment recently in the Senate for firearm transport via Amtrak must have the gun grabbers pulling their hair out.

Rehberg Bill All-Aboard for Gun Rights on Amtrak

6 posted on 10/16/2009 11:56:52 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

There’s a push behind that for the outlawing of any firearms discharges in housing developments outside of the cites, and that includes very large, agricultural acreages. ...word from police working for the sheriffs and their favored constituents from the cities. Anyone who wants to do target practice will be banned from doing so on their ranches and relegated instead, to the expensive ranges, where they can be watched and logged.

So I warned you.


7 posted on 10/16/2009 11:58:17 AM PDT by familyop ("Nice girl, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice." --Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: ironwill
See comment #17, and think again.

Beware funding and any offers from the government for anything that you may want.


8 posted on 10/16/2009 12:02:12 PM PDT by familyop ("Nice girl, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice." --Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: taxcontrol
STOP THE SPENDING

"Currently, states are allocated funds for a variety of wildlife purposes under the Pittman-Robertson Act, which established a 10 percent excise tax on firearms, hunting equipment and ammunition, and distributes these funds to states for hunter safety programs and the development and maintenance of shooting ranges, among other things."

Then repeal the Pittman-Robertson Act.

9 posted on 10/16/2009 12:05:10 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: San Jacinto; familyop; taxcontrol
How are yall fixed for Dairy Queens? Maybe the government can send you a few of those.

Actually we're fine in that area. :)

Gov't control is gov't control. You're all correct. I should know better.

10 posted on 10/16/2009 12:08:43 PM PDT by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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To: familyop

Exactly.

I shoot pistol right in my back yard, as allowed by town zoning ordinances here in Vermont.

Here anything else would be unenforceable. No one would obey any restriction laws applied to their own properties. Guns are part of culture of the North East Kingdom of Vermont.

I wish it were true for the rest of the country.

They want to log everyone at ranges. I shoot at ranges a couple of times a year to sight in my scoped rifles at 500 yards.I never use the same one twice in a row. And as you say, for good reason.


11 posted on 10/16/2009 12:14:46 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: taxcontrol

Only the genuinely principled fight against something that would benefit them, on principle.

It’s what sets us apart from the common democrats.

God made us to have dominion over the democrats, not to lie on our bellies and crawl around with them

8D


12 posted on 10/16/2009 12:19:13 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: ironwill

Thank you.

Many of the richer homeowners’ association hags (wives of retiring/retired corporates, busybodies, socialists) are behind the push, and many of the sheriffs nowadays are much like municipal chiefs—moving to the left. They don’t want anyone (including ranchers and small agriculturalists) firing firearms in their new neighborhoods. The homeowners’ association busybodies want servants and control, right now.

They moved away from their devolving suburbs, and they are making their new neighborhoods in remote areas like their old neighborhoods. They’ve already brought their “strategic master plan” of crazy zoning laws (”land use regulations”) to areas that are nearly out in the middle of nowhere (like my County). They’ve effectively outlawed construction and small business by property owners (no manufacturing, no wind turbines due to building height regulations, building permits often denied for those who are not likely to sue,...). They have tripled property taxes in my area over the past 10 years and are wanting much more care for their “health,” etc.

IMO, we need to stop buying anything that we don’t really need for a few years. They will bring the general defaults on themselves, and they can’t keep the tyranny up without revenues.


13 posted on 10/16/2009 12:23:33 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: ironwill

On the other hand, maybe there is something to be said for grabbing the money before the libs get it and open some new Planned Parenthood abortion stores.


14 posted on 10/16/2009 12:27:33 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: San Jacinto
On the other hand, maybe there is something to be said for grabbing the money before the libs get it and open some new Planned Parenthood abortion stores.

Pittman-Robertson funds are dedicated for conservation and outdoor activities. They can't be used as general revenue.

15 posted on 10/16/2009 12:42:34 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: San Jacinto

I’ve been thinking about opening one myself - the husband unit is leery because of legal and liability issues.

I do know it’s very hard to find a place to shoot... and the private ranges I’ve tried locally all have 2+ year waiting lists to get in.


16 posted on 10/16/2009 1:04:41 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: neverdem

Pittman-Robertson is Aid to Wildlife, not aid to shooting ranges.


17 posted on 10/16/2009 2:11:58 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: taxcontrol
"Folks, this is GOVERNMENT SPENDING by the Federal Government. It is not needed and it can’t be afforded right now .... no matter how well meaning."

No- The gov't collects taxes from hunters and sportsmen under Pittman- Robertson- we just want some of the money back.

18 posted on 10/16/2009 2:21:42 PM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO- On a Holy Jihad against USA!)
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To: taxcontrol
"Folks, this is GOVERNMENT SPENDING by the Federal Government. It is not needed and it can’t be afforded right now .... no matter how well meaning."

No- The gov't collects taxes from hunters and sportsmen under Pittman- Robertson- we just want some of the money back.

19 posted on 10/16/2009 2:21:49 PM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO- On a Holy Jihad against USA!)
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To: taxcontrol; matthew fuller
"GOVERNMENT SPENDING"

No, Pittman Roberson money never goes into the Treasury.

Treasury Dept collects the excise tax, turns 100% over to FWS, who deducts an administrative fee and grants it back to the states.

Same with Dingall Johnson Act on the fishing excise tax as well as the motor boat fuel tax.

20 posted on 10/16/2009 2:44:16 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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