Posted on 10/15/2009 5:54:40 AM PDT by cc2k
The House GOP conference is bitterly divided over a centrist New York Republican’s run for the House seat vacated by Army Secretary John McHugh.
Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava, who backs abortion rights and has voiced support for gay rights, has drawn a challenger from the right who is running on the Conservative Party line. And though House leaders have urged conference members to donate, many have pointedly refused to back Scozzafava.
The Club for Growth, Concerned Women of America, former Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.) and evangelical leader Gary Bauer have all endorsed Doug Hoffman, the Conservative Party candidate.
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Just 17 members — about 10 percent of the GOP conference — have written checks to Scozzafava’s campaign. They include House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.), National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) Chairman Pete Sessions (Texas) and Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), who is in charge of recruiting candidates to run next year.
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That's effectively the same thing that was said about Reagan when he ran for Governor of California in 1964. Here was his response:
We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals of our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. - Ronald Reagan
this candidate isn’t a “moderate”, they are far left.
What is this person doing running as a republican?
Supports abortion, cap and trade, stimulus, card check...
Email Pete Sessions. Let him know of your concerns.
Obviously, the GOP still hasn’t learned the lesson of 2006 and 2008, and will continue to be the minority “moderate” party for a long time.
WellyP wrote:
The far right GOP members need to wake up, YOU LIVE IN NEW YORK. Scozzafara is about as good as you can get! Better Scozzafara that a full fledged DemoRat!
I would disagree on your final point. Which is better? Someone who supports cap and trade, supports card check, supports abortion, supports bank bailouts, and is in agreement with their party's position on every one of these issues? Someone who supports cap and trade, supports card check, supports abortion, supports bank bailouts, and opposes their party's position on every one of these issues? The first case is an honest candidate. The second is a dishonest scoundrel.
I realize that agreement on absolutely every issue and ideological purity is out of the question. But the party should run someone who agrees on most of the major issues. If you can’t find a candidate who actually supports most of the Republican platform, don’t bother.
About this district, it is a fairly conservative district (by New York standards). They had a Republican Congressman named John McHugh until September. McHugh had a 71.55% rating from the American Conservative Union.
And my issue with GOP leadership is about taking my support for granted. I support the GOP because I support their platform. In the past, I have given to the RNC and the NRCC and NSCC because I (mistakenly) believed that the money would go to candidates who (mostly) support the principles and positions of the Party. If I wanted to donate to candidates who support abortion, cap and trade, card check, gay rights and bank bailouts, I would give to the DNC and NDCC. The GOP is making a mistake funding a candidate who opposes the party on most major issues.
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I would rather not have a Republican majority if it means we are just going to continue with the same old tax and spend policies. I hope after this disaster unfolds the Republican leadership will make clear they have learned their lesson. If not, we need new leadership. The best thig that could happen here would be a win by Hoffman.
Really? They couldn’t find somebody like Pete King? They couldn’t at least contact the leader of the Conservative Party to ask their opinion? Was McHugh a champion of abortion and homosexuality? We don’t need a Susan Collins clone when better people are elecatable.
Supporting homosexuality and abortion makes someone a centrist???? Bizarro world!
“The far right GOP members need to wake up, YOU LIVE IN NEW YORK. Scozzafara is about as good as you can get! Better Scozzafara that a full fledged DemoRat!”
But the dumbest thing you said (and, again, I apologize if it was sarcasm) was that an ultraliberal Kossite is “about as good as you can get” in New York. In case you don’t know, the 23rd Congressional district (under its current lines) voted for George W. Bush in both 2000 and 2004, and has been held by a pro-life, pro-marriage, moderate-to-conservative Republican for the past 17 years. It is ridiculous to claim that only a radical leftist such as Scozzafava can win in that district.
Dede Scozzafava would have *never* won a primary for the GOP nomination in the NY-23, but was hand-picked by RINO county hacks because in a NY special House election they don’t have primaries. The NRCCC should have, at a minimum, sat out the race and let the Conservative Party nominee, Doug Hoffman, win the election and caucus with the Republicans in Congress. But the NRCCC chose instead to run negative ads against Hoffman (as they often do against conservatives that are running against RINOs in primaries), which is why I haven’t donated to the NRCCC in several years.
IN this case there was no primary, it was a local party pick behind closed doors.
I actually agreee with the “support candidates more like you” in the general elections, so long as they are at all like me.
In this case, not only is this woman pro-abortion and pro-gay-rights (both of which may mean little while she sits in the house minority), so far as I can tell she’d vote FOR the cap and trade bill, FOR the democrat’s health care destruction bill, and FOR the card check. She’s supported by the wrong people, and she wouldn’t really be an advocate for anything we agree with.
She’d be little more than the republican trotted out to prove the democrats are “bi-partisan”.
Better to have the democrat in this case, we can win the seat back in 12 months.
Elitist is a better term.
There are elitists in the GOP,
but the dems are nothing BUT elitists.
The local party is made up of individuals.
Too often the local conservatives are not that involved in the old school local power politics.
The first time I went to my local county convention I found my district, sat down and asked the guy with “the book” to see it. He said I didn’t need to and he was the one voting for our district. Since he had a couple of friends who were in “the book” I was outvoted and we did it his way.
I learned that day all it took was your friends in the district to go with you and you had the votes. Works like a charm and pisses people off.
This woman is NOT a centrist! She has been endorsed by DailyKos, for heaven’s sake!
Scozzafara=Snowe=Sphincter=Defeat.
“...The far right GOP members need to wake up...”
Uh, No.
There is NO “far-right GOP”. There are Americans, and then there are Liberals. Period. The GOP better wake the hell up and realize what’s happening here.
By running these stupid liberal candidates, they’re aiding and abetting their own eventual destruction by the Dems. The Dems see this as war; the GOP sees it as a game.
If it looks like RINO sh*t, smells like RINO sh*t, and makes noises like a Democrat, you can pretty much bet that it’s RINO sh*t.
I’ll write in my choice if they keep sending up the McCains, Romneys, Grahamnestys, Snowes, Collinses, and the likes of this Dede Scrotumface or whatever the hell her name is.
No more RINOS. Not now, not ever.
Bingo!
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