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(Feinstein Favors) Fish Vs. Farmers
Investor's Business Daily ^ | Sept. 25, 2009 | Editorial

Posted on 09/26/2009 3:04:40 PM PDT by raptor22

Environmentalism: Sen. Dianne Feinstein votes to deny water to California's drought-stricken San Joaquin Valley. Farmers, families and food are being held hostage to an endangered fish called the delta smelt. (snip) The Senate rejected the amendment by a largely party-line 61-36 margin, with Feinstein opposing the restoration of water deliveries to farmers.

The California senator claimed she was blindsided by the amendment to the bill she was managing in the Senate, bizarrely comparing the move to a "Pearl Harbor."

"No one from California has called, written or indicated they wanted this on the calendar," Feinstein protested.

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To: forester; tubebender
Yeah, well... they better stay fired up and be willing to spend some more gasoline and time away from their business/job until at least Christmas time, or their won't be any Santa Claus, so to speak, this time around!!!

They have the votes, even if they have to wheel old Byrd down the Senate hallway like they did Pete Wilson on the last immagration/abomination in the 1970's to pass the bill without one Republican present!!!

81 posted on 09/26/2009 9:09:48 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("Homeland Defense" begins at HOME!!! He who hesitates, is LOST!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

The only end game I see is that once they achieve the goal of subordinating us, the big army of lawyers will not be needed and many will lose out on the sweet insider jobs they were expecting.

The elites will cordon off all of the prime real estate for themselves, but many who thought they would be part of this group will find out that they are on the outside looking in.


82 posted on 09/26/2009 9:11:49 PM PDT by ResponseAbility (Bureaucratic healthcare is bad medicine.)
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To: forester
Yep! That was a real humdinger of a video!! I went on to see the one about Obama and Ayres parroting each other, too!!!

I have no further comment until I can think past the heartbreak I feel for the land of MY BIRTH!!!

83 posted on 09/26/2009 9:28:14 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("Homeland Defense" begins at HOME!!! He who hesitates, is LOST!!!)
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To: ResponseAbility; forester
You may well be right. I think he's banking on this healthcare thing since Canada requires close to a million personnel to administer their governMental plan, that this is where the jobs will be created and they will be the union jobs he promised with big salaries and huge benefits to feather the nests of the "have nots" for "Social Justice" as he sees it!!!

Meanwhile, all the "whitecollar" jobs down at United Healthcare, Inc. and Blue Cross & Blue Shield will just dry up and die!!! It's get even with 'em ism and revenge for perceived injustice and racist, too!!! You betcha!!!

84 posted on 09/26/2009 9:35:05 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("Homeland Defense" begins at HOME!!! He who hesitates, is LOST!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
RE: Feinstein favors) Fish vs Farmers

Doesn't this, like so many other things decided in California, just boil down to the votes? Feinstein's calculation is probably just that there are more tree-huggers, eco-whackos and the like, than farmers voting, so she's again likely choosing to protect her job/power/etc., over the actual needs of her constituents. (...Big surprise, huh?)


85 posted on 09/26/2009 9:57:42 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: SierraWasp

Now that’s something to think about. If it happens as you surmise it will not transition so neatly here, and will most likely weaken us too much to sustain viability. The house of cards will fall completely.


86 posted on 09/26/2009 10:08:48 PM PDT by ResponseAbility (Bureaucratic healthcare is bad medicine.)
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To: Seadog Bytes

I think she knows that whichever side is feeling the most threatened and upset on election day is the side that’ll turn out the most voters. The candidate can really only use one or two things to actually pull off a last minute victory. Either a scandal that unnerves the voters, or an issue, complete with a companion ballot measure that’s really popular.


87 posted on 09/26/2009 11:30:07 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("Homeland Defense" begins at HOME!!! He who hesitates, is LOST!!!)
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To: ResponseAbility

The thing that would make me the most happy and satisfied would be that I turn out to be completely wrong!!!


88 posted on 09/26/2009 11:31:57 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("Homeland Defense" begins at HOME!!! He who hesitates, is LOST!!!)
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To: raptor22

Part of the fisheries issue is the Klamath. The salmon fishery overlaps the Sacramento run. First one has to consider the Pacific decadal oscillation (El Nino, La Nina.) Salmon runs are cyclical over a decade or more in response to these temperature/weather swings. When fishing is great in Alaska, it sucks in California.

Also, for several years the Klamath runs have been depressed. This is largely because of two diseases C-Shasta and parvicapsula minicornibus. This parasite has a life cycle involving a spore and a worm. It is infecting 80-90% of the juvenile fish in the Klamath mainstem and is usually lethal. Most returning adult fish also carry the disease and shed the spore with their carcass after they spawn. They have been studying it and still don’t have a grasp of how to reduce infection rates. The increase may be due to suntle climate change.

Anyhow, when the Klamath salmon runs are depressed, there is also no fishing for the Sacramento runs in the overlapping oceanic area. This year, the Sacramento runs are depressed and the Klamath runs are ok enough to allow in-river fishing.

Because of the depressed runs, the environmentalists, tribes and fishermen like to demonize farmers, ranchers and loggers for their use of water as a tool to gain power and to remove those industries. After twenty years of fighting about fish and water on the Klamath, I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that they will not be satisfied until all farming, ranching, mining, logging and devlopment is destroyed in my county.


89 posted on 09/26/2009 11:59:11 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: ResponseAbility
Yep, field crops love pivots esp. when they distribute nutes.

You can use drip for fertilizer distribution, as well. We fed 29,000 pecan trees in Alabama with nitrates and zinc, using drip.

90 posted on 09/27/2009 6:05:29 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: baltimorelady

There is no Constitutional Authority for the EPA. Arrest the Judge and the plaintiffs, as well as the Attorney’s. Seize their Assets to pay damages to the Farmers. Put them in JAIL for LIFE. Summon Forth the National Guard of California, Summon Forth the State Militia. Call on every able bodied male between the ages of 18 and 35 to the Delta, turn on the Water. Create a Crisis, we will win. Your Boy Obama will not risk a Civil War on his Watch.

This is why we have the 2nd Amendment.

What would John Wayne Do??

Federal Law that doesn’t have any Constitutional Authority under the enumerated powers section of the Constitution is not LAW, it is a Usurpation of Powers delegated to the States or the People.

PUT THEM IN JAIL YOU BIG WUSS GOVERNOR SHRIVER. Maybe you should start Acting like a Real man instead of a Girly Man.


91 posted on 09/27/2009 7:05:14 AM PDT by eyeamok
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