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Justice Clarence Thomas: Americans should emulate Lincoln
Richmond Times Dispatch ^ | 09/25/09 | SUE LINDSEY

Posted on 09/26/2009 2:45:33 PM PDT by HokieMom

LEXINGTON, Va. (AP) -- Americans must pay attention to challenges to democracy today just as Abraham Lincoln did by fiercely opposing slavery, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas told a conference on the 16th president's legacy Friday night.

"We are part of something far greater than ourselves," Thomas told more than 300 people at Washington and Lee University.

Many in Lincoln's time didn't realize the threat that slavery posed to the principles on which the nation was founded, Thomas said.

"What a miserable job he had. He wasn't popular," Thomas said, "but he did what was right."

Thomas received a standing ovation from the audience in Lee Chapel, where Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee is buried.

He told conference participants he isn't a Lincoln scholar, but admires him greatly.

"My interest in him has been deeply personal and long-standing," said Thomas, who grew up in segregated rural Georgia in the 1950s and 1960s. "We thought of him then as the great emancipator."

The 61-year-old Thomas is the Supreme Court's second black justice. The first was Thurgood Marshall, whom he replaced in 1991.

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TOPICS: Philosophy; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: abelincoln; clarencethomas; despot; dishonestabe; dixie; leechapel; scotus; tyrant; washingtonandlee
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To: Rodebrecht

“he was born in America”
Even better, Kentucky.


21 posted on 09/26/2009 3:04:32 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Non-Sequitur

Boy, you were one step behind...:)


22 posted on 09/26/2009 3:04:56 PM PDT by rlmorel (You cannot reap the benefits right now of the planning ahead you didn't do in the past.)
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To: HokieMom

I wonder if Thomas got into Lincoln getting back into politics largely as a response to the Dred Scott decision, the original activist Supreme Court decision.

Just like Roe v. Wade, it took a political disagreement and in attempting to put it outside the realm of politics made political adjustment of the issue impossible. In the Scott case this led directly to the greatest war in American history.

I take great pleasure in contemplating Chief Justice Taney’s reaction to Justice Thomas’ presence on the Court.


23 posted on 09/26/2009 3:05:13 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: HokieMom
Americans should emulate Lincoln

Is he calling for starting the lightly-entertained idea of another civil war?

24 posted on 09/26/2009 3:05:27 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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To: patriot preacher
Lincoln’s great legacy is seen in an ever-growing, all powerful central, federal government in Washington DC, not the states. In short, Lincoln “freed the slaves” by “enslaving [all] free men.”

Speaking of myths that surround Lincoln's persona....

25 posted on 09/26/2009 3:05:37 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: HokieMom
The 61-year-old Thomas is the Supreme Court's second black justice. The first was Thurgood Marshall, whom he replaced in 1991.

As if a common race means anything.

"You guys have been practicing discrimination for years. Now it is our turn." - Thurgood Marshall

26 posted on 09/26/2009 3:06:04 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Islam is a barbaric social and political system in religious drag.)
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To: Sherman Logan
I take great pleasure in contemplating Chief Justice Taney’s reaction to Justice Thomas’ presence on the Court.

That must be what made his hair stand on end.

27 posted on 09/26/2009 3:16:30 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Jacquerie
"You guys have been practicing discrimination for years. Now it is our turn." - Thurgood Marshall

Wow, never heard that one before. Did a Google search and it only came up on a couple of hundred web pages (out of what, a trillion?) that aren't FR pages. Imagine Dubya or Cheney or Rush Limbaugh saying anything half as outrageous; it'd probably be on a billion webpages. And we're not talking about the MSM; we're talking about the world-wide web for crying out loud.

28 posted on 09/26/2009 3:35:54 PM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: LibWhacker
I should have cited the source. It is under the Chapter Six title of "Endorsing Racism" in Mark Levin's Men in Black.
29 posted on 09/26/2009 3:41:13 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Islam is a barbaric social and political system in religious drag.)
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To: HokieMom

If Obama did that Mr. Thomas, you might be in jail as another SCOTUS judge was.


30 posted on 09/26/2009 3:50:23 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: autumnraine
If Obama did that Mr. Thomas, you might be in jail as another SCOTUS judge was.

Who was that?

31 posted on 09/26/2009 3:51:29 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: patriot preacher

If the Northern states relied on slavery for their economy, I imagined abolition wouldn’t have been a priority.


32 posted on 09/26/2009 3:51:52 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

See post 27, another Freeper knew what I was talking about.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/adams3.html


33 posted on 09/26/2009 3:55:08 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Sherman Logan

Just finished listening to the whole speech. Justice Thomas will never win a prize for best public speaker.

However, he did indeed tackle the issue I mentioned. Dred Scott was one of the very first attempts to allow the judiciary to rule by fiat. It was overturned only by the Civil War.

Yet as Clarence points out, judges learned nothing by this. They still think they have the wisdom to rule by just stating that their policy preferences are part of the Constitution and thus above political give and take.

As bad an idea as in the 1850s, and at least as prone to lead to tyranny, even if it is a tyranny of good intentions.


34 posted on 09/26/2009 3:56:23 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: autumnraine

A warrant for the arrest of Taney may have been issued, but he was not actually arrested or jailed.


35 posted on 09/26/2009 4:00:14 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Rodebrecht
Americans should emulate Lincoln

No, I think he means start a civil war. He was using some of those conservative code words you hear so much about.

36 posted on 09/26/2009 4:09:08 PM PDT by KarinG1 (Who am I, and what have I done with myself?)
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To: Sherman Logan

Thank you for your comments. I appreciate your remarks.


37 posted on 09/26/2009 4:52:52 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Checking in.


38 posted on 09/26/2009 5:10:08 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: HokieMom

Lincoln *is* the Republican Party — the GOP was created by the religious right for the purpose of abolishing slavery. Lincoln was definitely pro-war— he put down the great Democrat rebellion, even threw many Democrats in jail and shutting down their newspapers. And the icing on the cake— Lincoln was pro-business, passing bills like the Homestead Act and the Pacific Railway Act.

Lincoln is the best American president ever, easily.


39 posted on 09/26/2009 5:16:49 PM PDT by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: JHBowden
Lincoln is the best American president ever, easily.

I am sure he would have let the South go if he only knew that 140 later, the North would slowly bring creeping Marxism. Yes, socialism/Marxism is coming North to South. No question a free Independent South would be watching our ex -Northern countrymen drinking the collective kool-aid, glad to have been freed from this abysmal Union. But alas no, because of the Illinois Butcher™ we have to go down with the ship. What a hero.

FYI To Clarence, he was a racist of the worst sort.

40 posted on 09/26/2009 5:26:27 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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