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White House considers withdrawing from Afghanistan
FOXNews ^ | 09/24/2009 | FOXNews

Posted on 09/24/2009 4:29:33 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

Edited on 09/24/2009 4:37:15 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Just announced by Jennifer Griffith in a live interview, WH has asked Pentagon for a formal assessment of a withdrawal from Afghanistan, that the Afghan War is no longer in our nations interest, blamed the Afghan elections.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afganistan; afghanistan; appeasement; bho44; bhogwot; coward; cutandrun; education; health; healthcare; impeachobamanow; islam; israel; military; nationalsecurityfail; nsp; nss; obama; obamacare; oef; oefsurge; osama; osamabinobama; osbama; palin; politics; spineless; surrender; taliban; terrorism; tm; waronterror; whiteflag; whitehouse; wot
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To: Bitter Bierce

I did come across this!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alex-conant/is-obama-leaving-afghanis_b_264952.html


361 posted on 09/25/2009 10:14:51 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Hrm...so If I think Bush did great on the war on terror...but still find fault with other policies...am I a bushbot too?


362 posted on 09/25/2009 10:20:36 AM PDT by Crim
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To: red irish

How about a link to the posted story?

I can find nothing...not a peep...the only atricles posted anywhere link right back to this thread...

and there is no link to any confirmation anywhere...


363 posted on 09/25/2009 10:22:32 AM PDT by Crim
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To: tcrlaf

This might be all about health care! He can say the money he saves from withdrawing can be used for health care! Politicians do not understand religion at all they believe they can treat militant Islam like they do here with Christians. The Muslims do not respect weakness at all they will only be more aggressive in wanting to kill us or make us convert to Islam. After all that is exactly what Mohammad did.


364 posted on 09/25/2009 10:24:27 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: rlmorel

;^) I know.


365 posted on 09/25/2009 10:25:03 AM PDT by tioga (Drip, Drip, Drip.......the ACORNS are falling.)
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To: Williams
Obama can do a 180 in the course of a press conference and not get called on it. This one will be easy for him.

“I will not raise taxes”

“I will not sign a bill with earmarks.”

“I will not sign a bill that raises the deficit.”

“I don't want to take over GM”

“I have a strategy in Afghanistan”

Etc., etc., etc.,

366 posted on 09/25/2009 10:27:41 AM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Now that is scary stuff! I do not want to be the new Europe!


367 posted on 09/25/2009 10:35:00 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
You know, I've lurked and observed your posts before, LLS, and I never suspected you would use ad-hominems and name-calling as a means to deny the reality of what someone who was debating you was saying. It diminishes you in every way.

I'll leave the conversation with by repeating this..... Your comparison of President Bush with the diabolical Nero is completely out of line. He did not betray you. He did what he thought was right, and he is still doing so, because he has convictions that he will not abandon. You can disagree with his principles, but to accuse him of being diabolical is absurd.

If you don't even recognize that, there's not mothing more to be said.

368 posted on 09/25/2009 10:39:27 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
btw, I wear the term "Bush-bot" proudly if it means standing up in defense of a man of integrity and honor.

You meant it to hurt me. But it only hurt you because all I have done here is stand up for doing what you believe is right regardless of attempts to make you give up your principles.

President Bush did not, and I will never attack him for that.

369 posted on 09/25/2009 10:43:51 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: BamaFan

Peters and Hunt are very lyal to the troops and don’t BS!
they also understand this type of warfare and they understand the situation here in DC.


370 posted on 09/25/2009 11:11:44 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Yes, he just “uses’ whatever in his campaigning and he’s STILL campaigning...”Words, just words.”


371 posted on 09/25/2009 11:12:57 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: ohioWfan
“To: LibLieSlayer

You know, I've lurked and observed your posts before, LLS, and I never suspected you would use ad-hominems and name-calling as a means to deny the reality of what someone who was debating you was saying.”

The only thing that I called you was a Bush-bot... someone that defends President Bush when discussing some of the things that the man did that were wrong... and he was not perfect and he did makes some mistakes. To try to defend his big government spending, refusal to defend himself and those that put themselves on the line in their support of his presidency and his absolute insane support for amnesty is wrong, when measured against true Conservative ideology.

He did many good things, but he did some bad things too... and the same can be said for President Reagan... but not to the extent that Bush fumbled.

“It diminishes you in every way.”

I'll survive unscathed.

“I'll leave the conversation with by repeating this..... Your comparison of President Bush with the diabolical Nero is completely out of line.”

The only comparison that I made was that he fiddles (he goes on with his life in silence) while our country is under attack from within (Rome burning).

“He did not betray you.”

He let me down and disappointed me in many ways. He lied about being a Conservative and he left office violating one of the most important Conservative tenants that there is... the support of FREE MARKETS.

“He did what he thought was right, and he is still doing so, because he has convictions that he will not abandon.”

He is a stubborn man... admitted to by both his wife and Mother... and it is one of his major faults. He displayed this weakness when he pledged to “see us all at the signing” when he was certain that he would legalize and grant citizenship to 40 million illegal aliens.

“You can disagree with his principles, but to accuse him of being diabolical is absurd.”

You are the only one using or even contemplating these derogatory terms... I did not and I was not even thinking along those lines.

“If you don't even recognize that, there's not mothing more to be said.”

Obviously, there WAS more to say.

“368 posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 12:39:27 PM by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“btw, I wear the term “Bush-bot” proudly if it means standing up in defense of a man of integrity and honor.
You meant it to hurt me.”

No, I meant it as explained in detail above... you take it upon yourself to insert language and meaning to others words when they are not warranted.

“But it only hurt you because all I have done here is stand up for doing what you believe is right regardless of attempts to make you give up your principles.”

I appreciate your concern... I will once again survive unscathed.

“President Bush did not, and I will never attack him for that.”

No doubt... you cannot even come to terms with his mistakes and the calm and constructive discussion of them.

LLS

372 posted on 09/25/2009 11:25:47 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

So you’re mad at Bush for not acting like clintoon and carter?

huh?


373 posted on 09/25/2009 11:47:59 AM PDT by Crim
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Your Honor; I’d like to present this balloon into evidence in this trial and see if anyone notices.


374 posted on 09/25/2009 11:48:15 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
LOL! We haven't been discussing "his mistakes." You have been whining, making false accusations and calling me names.

On some other thread where it's relevant, perhaps we can discuss "his mistakes."

Glad you're "unscathed" though. It was never my intent to "scathe" you. Just point out how very wrong you were, and nothing you've said has changed the fact that your accusation was way out of line. My statements still stand, your lengthy protestations, whinings and accusations notwithstanding.

President Bush is a man of character. Period. And you were wrong to compare him to the diabolical Nero.

375 posted on 09/25/2009 11:51:42 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Crim

Yes. He is.


376 posted on 09/25/2009 11:56:44 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

I know you highly respect the contributions of engineers but I think you get my drift!


377 posted on 09/25/2009 11:57:08 AM PDT by orinoco
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
This was the plan all along. Remember all that rhetoric about Afghanistan being where we should have been INSTEAD of Iraq? Dems meant NEITHER.

O thinks he can decimate our military, our allies, and make nice with terror states. He is such a wuss!--a very dangerous wuss to us.

vaudine

378 posted on 09/25/2009 12:01:45 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: east1234

east1234,
I didn’t appreciate the tone of your response. I asked a genuine question in a respectful way with data to shed light on the situation.

If you can’t engage in respectful discourse, don’t bother replying.

As for your assertion, after Romney pulled out on February 9th, that left Huckabee as the only option, which wasn’t much of an option. If you are saying that it left “moderate” Republicans to choose between McCain and Huckabee that is still a dead candidate.

If you want to make the argument that Operation Chaos contributed directly to the election of Obama and not Clinton, you might be able to make that argument, but I would counter that at that time, it was unthinkable that Obama was an electable candidate. Most people thought that Clinton could be elected, but with all that was known about Obama, even a lightweight RINO like McCain could probably beat him. That turned out to be wrong.

Lastly, “thank you for participating” in what? If you take my questioning of your assertion as either support for Operation Chaos or support for Rush Limbaugh doing it, that isn’t why I asked you.

I believe that to win elections, we have to learn the lessons of defeats. I believe that Operation Chaos was a red herring and nothing more. Pinning any kind of blame on that is going to distract from analysis of the real issues, that is, why were we presented by our national party with candidates like McCain, Huckabee and Romney, while more conservative and legitimate candidates like Thompson and Hunter left the race early with poor showings?

If those are the kinds of candidates the RNC had any hand in funneling into the electoral process, THAT is more of a serious issue than Operation Chaos.


379 posted on 09/25/2009 12:29:06 PM PDT by rlmorel (You cannot reap the benefits right now of the planning ahead you didn't do in the past.)
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