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Creationists Given Academic Credit for Trolling
Via LGF ^ | 8/10/09 | Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary

Posted on 09/24/2009 6:08:52 AM PDT by xcamel

William Dembski, the “intelligent design” creationist who is a professor in philosophy at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas, has some rather interesting requirements for students of his creationism courses — 20% of their final grade comes from having written 10 posts promoting ID on “hostile” websites: Academic Year 2009-2010.

Spring 2009

Intelligent Design (SOUTHERN EVANGELICAL SEMINARY #AP 410, 510, and 810; May 11 – 16, 2009)

NEW! THE DUE DATE FOR ALL WORK IN THIS COURSE IS AUGUST 14, 2009. Here’s what you will need to do to wrap things up:

AP410 — This is the undegrad [sic] course. You have three things to do: (1) take the final exam (worth 40% of your grade); (2) write a 3,000-word essay on the theological significance of intelligent design (worth 40% of your grade); (3) provide at least 10 posts defending ID that you’ve made on “hostile” websites, the posts totalling 2,000 words, along with the URLs (i.e., web links) to each post (worth 20% of your grade).

AP510 — This is the masters course. You have four things to do: (1) take the final exam (worth 30% of your grade); (2) write a 1,500- to 2,000-word critical review of Francis Collins’s The Language of God — for instructions, see below (20% of your grade); (3) write a 3,000-word essay on the theological significance of intelligent design (worth 30% of your grade); (4) provide at least 10 posts defending ID that you’ve made on “hostile” websites, the posts totalling 3,000 words, along with the URLs (i.e., web links) to each post (worth 20% of your grade).


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To: metmom

It’s late, and I don’t have time to read all of that. Does any of it submit as evidence anything that’s objectively false according to already established and accepted scientific fact?


281 posted on 09/28/2009 9:48:11 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

[[I’ve notices that over in the Religion forum where the have serious discussions about theological issues, they delete comments like that.]]

Actually no- what they delete is ‘reading other people’s minds’ posts- what they l;eave alone are responses to error, and rightfully so


282 posted on 09/28/2009 10:01:48 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: xcamel
I also believe it is one of the reasons it now takes twice as long to get to the end of a freepathon.

What a load. If FR got a dime every time some FReeper whined this line of hooey, we'd never need a freepathon.

Upthread you challenged someone to use the polling function to back up their idea. Why don't you poll Freepers and ask them if they're donating less because of where JR puts crevo threads? It'll be good for a laugh.

283 posted on 09/28/2009 10:33:52 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

“We’re right! We’re free! And we’ll fight! And you’ll seeeeeeee!”

Is that some line from “Planet of the Apes?


284 posted on 09/29/2009 3:33:21 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: CottShop
Actually no- what they delete is ‘reading other people’s minds’ posts- what they l;eave alone are responses to error, and rightfully so

[We’re all free (not that you’d have it that way if you had your own way)]

285 posted on 09/29/2009 3:41:54 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Mr. Silverback; All
Really?

A small group of fundamentalists somehow manages pressure or coerce JR to bend to their demands and drive FR to the fringe, driving off other true conservatives at a time when they are most needed to fight against the tidal wave of socialist and anti freedom agendas?

Brilliant plan there Dr. Strangelove.

Just keep your petty agenda right there on the front page, where people expect to see the “Face of Reagan’, and all they really get is the likes of Rev Fred Phelps and radical muslim funding of ICR by turkish national Adnan Oktar.

Just brilliant.

286 posted on 09/29/2009 4:21:09 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel; Mr. Silverback; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; tpanther; valkyry1; AndrewC; GourmetDan; RussP; ...
A small group of fundamentalists somehow manages pressure or coerce JR to bend to their demands and drive FR to the fringe, driving off other true conservatives at a time when they are most needed to fight against the tidal wave of socialist and anti freedom agendas?

And *true conservatives* are?

How is Christianity not conservative? What distinguishes a *true* conservative from a *false* conservative, IOW, a CINO?

287 posted on 09/29/2009 6:03:52 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Read it a few more times, then post.


288 posted on 09/29/2009 6:05:17 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: metmom
A small group of fundamentalists somehow manages pressure or coerce JR to bend to their demands and drive FR to the fringe

Yeah, like we COULD "pressure or coerce" JR...

289 posted on 09/29/2009 6:06:40 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: MrB

Odd. Seems to me that it’s always the evos ragging on JR about how to run his site because they don’t like the tone of the posts.

Just like we’ve just seen.

If that isn’t an attempt at blackmail by painting FR in a bad light, I don’t know what is.


290 posted on 09/29/2009 6:18:55 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: xcamel

So you do consider Christians and creationists true conservatives.

Then what’s the problem?

This is a conservative site.


291 posted on 09/29/2009 6:22:49 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: xcamel

“A small group of fundamentalists somehow manages pressure or coerce JR to bend to their demands and drive FR to the fringe, driving off other true conservatives at a time when they are most needed to fight against the tidal wave of socialist and anti freedom agendas?”

BWWAAAHAAAHHAAAA!!!! YOU ARE GOING TO BE CRUSHED, CRUSHED!!!
TODAY FR, TOMORROW EVERYTHING!!! BWWWAAAAAHHHAAAAAHAHAHAH!!!!

Free crying towels as you leave.


292 posted on 09/29/2009 6:24:44 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: metmom

You’re so jaded by your creationist idol worship, you can’t even force yourself to read it correctly.

Oh, and about dancing around the meat of my statement, funny how you all avoid that topic like the plague.....


293 posted on 09/29/2009 6:33:21 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: count-your-change

Those eeeevvviiiiillll fundies.....

I’ll bet they even have the torches and pitchforks ready.


294 posted on 09/29/2009 6:34:02 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: xcamel

The meat of your statement is that you think JR is a pushover and that anyone who comes from a religious perspective is either a whacked out cultist or a radical muslim.

Hate to break it to you, but the very thing you’re fighting against is what made this country great.

Biblical Christianity is what produced western civiliation, like it or not.


295 posted on 09/29/2009 6:37:33 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Biblical Christianity is what produced western civiliation [sic], Luddite creationists did not. (although Christianity predates modern science by 500 years, it did everything in its power to crush scientific inquiry during the first 1500)
296 posted on 09/29/2009 6:46:26 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel; GodGunsGuts; metmom; All
if only you would end your addiction to the “news/activism” forum, of which they are neither.

A vast number of real conservative freepers (whom you regularly trash viscously) would agree.

Then, what in the world compels you to participate in these threads? The categorization of the threads is nothing but a red herring. When I look through the comments, I ignore 99% of the posts because they do not interest me. I really don't care and rarely notice how the items are categorized. I have no doubt that your only purpose is to censor opinion.

There was a poll taken here at Free Repbulic on the subject of belief in evolution. Apparently, the results have been lost during a crash, but IIRC the numbers were not favorable to your side of the argument.

297 posted on 09/29/2009 6:50:37 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: metmom

Do you even know what the “fundus” or “Fundament” is?

look it up... and no, “foundation” came much, much later.


298 posted on 09/29/2009 6:52:38 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: AndrewC

“lost results”... now thats funny.


299 posted on 09/29/2009 6:53:54 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: metmom

I can’t help it at times, some times I hear things that are so silly that even a semi-serious response seems too much dignity to afford such nonsense.

No doubt! Too bad Boris Karloff is gone.


300 posted on 09/29/2009 6:55:54 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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