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Surprised? Smoking status doesn't predict cardiovascular death with arterial disease
Reuters ^ | 09/22/09 | Unknown

Posted on 09/22/2009 3:38:49 PM PDT by TennesseeGirl

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Could it be good news for smokers? Current and past-smokers with coronary artery disease, cerebrovascular disease, or peripheral artery disease have less than half the cardiovascular mortality than never-smokers, the initial findings from a new study suggest.

But don't be so quick to tell your patients to light up: After accounting for potential confounders, the association was not statistically significant.

"The relationship between smoking habit and outcome in patients with established arterial disease remains controversial," Dr. M. Monreal, of Hospital Universitari Germans Trias i Pujol, Barcelona, Spain, and colleagues write in the September issue of the European Journal of Internal Medicine.

"Some studies have found that smoking may be associated with a better outcome among patients with acute coronary disease," they note. "As for patients with cerebrovascular disease or peripheral artery disease, there is little information on the influence of smoking on outcome."

...Compared to never-smokers, current and past-smokers were younger, more often male, and more likely to have chronic lung disease. Diabetes, hypertension, and heart failure were less common in current- and past-smokers. Excerpted.

(Excerpt) Read more at rtmagazine.com ...


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KEYWORDS: health; heart; nicotine; smoking
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"Diabetes, hypertension, and heart failure were less common in current- and past-smokers."

Pretty obvious this study wasn't done in the USA.

1 posted on 09/22/2009 3:38:50 PM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: TennesseeGirl

Get OUT!

And we will never see this in the SRM either.


2 posted on 09/22/2009 3:40:53 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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"Diabetes, hypertension ...were less common in current- and past-smokers."

Perhaps because they weigh less?

3 posted on 09/22/2009 3:43:10 PM PDT by freespirited (Liberals are only liberal about sex & drugs. Otherwise, they want to control your life. --DHorowitz)
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To: TennesseeGirl
The mean age at cardiovascular death was 82 years for never-smokers, 70 years for past-smokers, and 67 years for current smokers.

Money quote.

4 posted on 09/22/2009 3:44:24 PM PDT by freespirited (Liberals are only liberal about sex & drugs. Otherwise, they want to control your life. --DHorowitz)
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To: TennesseeGirl
I also read a while back that Parkinson's is strictly a non-smokers disease...

Not bragging but have been smoking for over 50 years and just recently developed unstable angina...have had about 5 attacks in the last year...NTG takes care of it....Lung cancer does not run in the family...I think genetics predisposition has a lot to do with cancers...With my family history, it G I cancers.....

5 posted on 09/22/2009 3:52:05 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: TennesseeGirl

Help save Social Security and defeat National Health Care, Light up!!


6 posted on 09/22/2009 3:52:26 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Buck Ofama!!)
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To: muir_redwoods

LOL I am doing my part, even roll my own....


7 posted on 09/22/2009 3:53:40 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: TennesseeGirl
Ok, what about the rate of lung cancer in smokers ???

Those stats should scare the crap out of anyone

8 posted on 09/22/2009 4:02:39 PM PDT by Popman (Am I still a racist if I disgree with Obama white half ???)
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To: TennesseeGirl
Libs will squash this report too!!! Two 35 year studies in 2001 stated that second hand smoke harms no one... (UCLA-Berkeley and UI-Urbana-Champaigne

Wonder if it's occurred to anyone that there might be a correlation between the smoking hysterics and global warming hoax????

Same tactics, different subject....

9 posted on 09/22/2009 4:06:01 PM PDT by xtinct (The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you..Be Strong Patriots!)
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To: TennesseeGirl
My 86 yr. old mother smoked 1 pack a day from age 21 till she broke her 2nd hip last year and had to move in with my sister. Never had any evident cardio pulmonary problems till her break & surgery recovery took away her mobility (and I took away her car keys which she still resents).Now its caught up with her and although she has bouts with worsening CG heart failure,as of yet no emphysema.
10 posted on 09/22/2009 4:09:22 PM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: goat granny

Anecdotal, of course, but here goes...

My beloved husband has no bad habits. Doesn’t drink, never smoked, etc. He now has Parkinson’s.

I have been smoking for well over 40 years... rarely have colds, flu, or other minor illnesses. Second hand smoke doesn’t seem to be very effective against Parkinson’s, I guess.


11 posted on 09/22/2009 4:14:20 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: freespirited
"Diabetes, hypertension ...were less common in current- and past-smokers"

Perhaps because they weigh less?

Exactly we know both of those diseases are affected by weight and smokers burn more calories due to the nicotine in their bodies.

Of course lets not bring Lung Cancer, Pancreatic Cancer, or the plethora of other diseases where the increased risk of developing due to smoking is hundreds of times that of the non smoker into the conversation.

12 posted on 09/22/2009 4:16:49 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Could it be good news for smokers?

I hate anti-tobacco zealots. That being said, smoking is not going to improve your health any more than drinking is going to help my liver.

We're adults. That means we make informed choices and weigh the risk / benefit ratio. But pipe dreams like all of the sudden discovering smoking will help your health are not going to happen. When I was a smoker, I had a dozen or so cases of people who lived into their 80s and smoked like chimneys. However, I ignored thousands who died far younger.

If you smoke, you might live a normal lifespan, but most likely you won't, and your last years will be significantly worse than that of a nonsmoker. Accept that, and make the choice. That's all you can do. And I support your right to pick either path.
13 posted on 09/22/2009 4:19:48 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: jacquej

I’m 59, have smoked for 45 years. I have so much nicotine in my system, cancer cells can’t survive. “cept for age related aches and pains, am truly healthy.


14 posted on 09/22/2009 4:21:24 PM PDT by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: TennesseeGirl

smoke’en if you got’em.

I restarted smoking one day when they first started outlawing smoking in restaurants somewhere - glad I did because I dont believe 90% of the antismoking propaganda.

Sure, if you smoke too much (I average 5 a day), it wont be healthy but I know lots of pack a day people who have far less problems than the teatotallers.


15 posted on 09/22/2009 4:54:49 PM PDT by blackminorca
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To: HamiltonJay

“Of course lets not bring Lung Cancer, Pancreatic Cancer, or the plethora of other diseases where the increased risk of developing due to smoking is hundreds of times that of the non smoker “

That simply is not true.

Pancreatic, colon, and breast cancer deaths are lower among smokers.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/brimelow1.html


16 posted on 09/22/2009 4:59:27 PM PDT by blackminorca
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To: blackminorca

Here’s another little article to stimulate conversation.

http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/diesel_lung_cancer.html

Are Diesels More Dangerous than Cigarettes as a Cause of Lung Cancer?

So far, most of the money given to the cancer industry has been spent looking for a cure for cancer. But it seems that cancer is a disease which has no cure. Traditionally, with solid tumours, cut it out has been the only real option - and it still is. Given that, wouldn’t it be better to concentrate more on preventing it?

Oxford’s cancer expert, Sir Richard Doll, writing in The American Journal of Public Health , said that increasing cancer mortality “can be accounted for in all industrialized countries by the spread of cigarette smoking.” Unfortunately, this statement tends to be believed, despite the evidence against it.

If smoking were a cause of any cancer, lung cancer is the most likely one. It was Sir Richard Doll who implicated smoking in a study published in 1964 - despite his own published data from that study which showed that people who inhaled cigarette smoke had less lung cancer than those who didn’t!

The real cause of lung cancer, according to another Oxford research scientist, Dr. Kitty Little, is diesel fumes. And the evidence here is much more persuasive. It includes the facts that:

tobacco smoke contains no carcinogens, while diesel fumes contain four known carcinogens;
that lung cancer is rare in rural areas, but common in towns;
that cancers are more prevalent along the routes of motorways;
that the incidence of lung cancer has doubled in non-smokers over past decades;
and that there was less lung cancer when we, as a nation, smoked more.
Pointing out that there has been evidence for over 40 years that smoking does not cause lung cancer, Dr Little says:

“Since the effect of the anti-smoking campaign has been to prevent the genuine cause from being publicly acknowledged, there is a very real sense in which we could say that the main reason for those 30,000 deaths a year from lung cancer is the anti-smoking campaign itself”.

There’s more at the link.


17 posted on 09/22/2009 5:43:34 PM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

very interesting - I think I once read that diesel fumes contain ultra small particles that resist cleansing by the lungs just like asbestos.


18 posted on 09/22/2009 6:12:18 PM PDT by blackminorca
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To: Popman

Just watch a heavy smoker dying and listen to them gasping for their last breath. That’s a lesson you won’t forget.


19 posted on 09/22/2009 6:54:06 PM PDT by balls (Fight Media Malpractice)
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To: Popman
Lung cancer is the number one cancer killer in the world.

Amongst smokers.
And non-smokers as well!!
20 posted on 09/22/2009 7:00:11 PM PDT by djf (I ain't got time to read all the whines!!!)
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