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NYT: Thousands rally with or against Obama
NYT via The Statesman ^ | 9/13/2009

Posted on 09/13/2009 8:25:18 AM PDT by GVnana

THE NEW YORK TIMES

Sunday, September 13, 2009

WASHINGTON — As President Barack Obama flew to Minnesota on Saturday to rally support for his health care plan, a sea of protesters filled the west lawn of the Capitol and spilled onto the National Mall on Saturday in the largest rally against Obama since he took office, a culmination of a summer-long season of protests that began with opposition to the health care overhaul and grew into a broader dissatisfaction with government.

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Dissatisfied with government

The demonstrators in Washington came from all corners of the country, waving American flags and handwritten signs explaining the root of their frustrations. Their anger stretched well beyond the health care legislation, with shouts of support for gun rights, lower taxes and a smaller government.

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The demonstrators numbered well into the tens of thousands, though the police declined to provide an estimate of the size of the crowd. Many of the participants came on their own and weren't part of an organization or group. The magnitude of the rally took the authorities by surprise, with throngs of people streaming from the White House to Capitol Hill for more than three hours.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhohealthcare; teaparty
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1 posted on 09/13/2009 8:25:19 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana

How fitting that the failed president would fly off to visit
with constituents of the failed comedian, while real Americans
are trying to save the country.


2 posted on 09/13/2009 8:29:30 AM PDT by Fireone (Where's the birth certificate? Who is this guy?)
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To: GVnana

Thousands...? Why doesn’t the Times try hundreds of thousands....? Didn’t want to upset Obama with the truth...


3 posted on 09/13/2009 8:30:39 AM PDT by freebilly ( No wonder all the left has a boner for Obama.... There's "Cialis" in "SoCIALISt")
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To: GVnana

How about that! 2 million people show up and NYT says tens of thousands!


4 posted on 09/13/2009 8:31:10 AM PDT by classified
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To: GVnana

Were there many pro-obimbo folks at the rally?


5 posted on 09/13/2009 8:31:28 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Buck Ofama!!)
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To: classified
Up to two million march to US Capitol to protest against Obama's spending in 'tea-party' demonstration


6 posted on 09/13/2009 8:35:57 AM PDT by kabar
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To: GVnana
They have inflated Obama's numbers and diminished the March on Washington D. C. numbers!

 
Message to the
New York Slimes:
TELL THE TRUTH!

7 posted on 09/13/2009 8:36:08 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: kabar

I count 35 people in that picture.../s


8 posted on 09/13/2009 8:37:11 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: GVnana
The Tea Party movement's core purpose and motivation is opposing Tyranny and (re)affirming Liberty!

How to distinguish Liberty from Tryanny:

  Liberty "Soft" Tyranny
1 Rights are inherent in, and unalienable from, individuals Rights are granted/rescinded by the majority through the government
2 Fundamental rights are life, liberty, and property (absence of coercion) Fundamental rights are food, housing, and healthcare (absence of necessity)
3 Property is owned by individuals who make decisions as to its use, improvement, and transfer Property is owned by 'the public' with government officials making decisions as to its use, improvement, and transfer
4 Government exists to protect the rights of individuals Government exists to plan and direct the resources of society
5 Government authority is decentralized in a federal system with limited and enumerated powers Government authority is centralized in a national system with broad and necessarily intrusive powers
6 Government action is prescribed by rules fixed and announced beforehand Government action is arbitrary and at the descretion of "czars" and planning boards
7 Economic activity is driven by a large number of small entities interacting according to simple rules Economic activity is driven by a small number of large entities operating within the constraints of complex regulations
8 Effective innovation results from contrarian thinking, individual initiative, and the voluntary exchange of property Efficient implementation of government planning requires conformity of opinion, collective action, and the coerced transfer of property
9 Standards of living for the many increase permanently as they utilize improved products and services conceived by the few Standards of living for the many increase temporarily as they utilize property redistributed from the few
10 Altruism is using one's own resources in concrete acts to help specific individuals Altruism is obligating the resources of others for broad-brush programs to help mankind in the abstract

Rights exists solely as a way to fairly decide whose will shall prevail in cases where two or more people disagree. They do not exist for the purpose of enslaving one person for the benefit of another (e.g., the "right" to free medical care.)

Liberty is the right to do whatever does not infringe the rights of others. Rights empower you to help yourself, free from interference by others.

Tyranny makes you a serf to be used by the elite to further their own power. Once upon a time, the nobility used religion to convince the serfs they had to serve the nobility. Modernly, the elite use good people's feelings of altruism to convince them to enslave both themselves and their neighbors. It's basically the same con game, just using a more sophisticated hook.

9 posted on 09/13/2009 8:37:11 AM PDT by sourcery (Party like it's 1776!)
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To: classified

Fox was doing the same thing yesterday: tens of thousands over and over.

Don’t know what they are saying today...


10 posted on 09/13/2009 8:41:25 AM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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To: Dallas59

Who do you believe, the NYT or your own lyin’ eyes? LOL.


11 posted on 09/13/2009 8:42:21 AM PDT by kabar
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To: GVnana

“, though the police declined to provide an estimate of the size of the crowd.”

,though most of the MSM have declined to announce any real estimates of the size of the crowd.


12 posted on 09/13/2009 8:42:48 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: Salvation
Message to the New York Slimes: TELL THE TRUTH!

File under: THINGS THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

13 posted on 09/13/2009 8:44:27 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: GVnana

Apparently, there are some non-counting idiots working at the NYT...


14 posted on 09/13/2009 8:44:38 AM PDT by cranked
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To: GVnana

What a headline and vile comparison:
* 15,000 paid union thugs, assorted government “workers,” and recipients of our largesse are bussed in to support monstrous, all-consuming government in Minneapolis
* 1,000,000 Americans give up their time and their own money to protest against the collectivist, tyrannical overthrow of their government

And the two are morally equivalent in the headline writer’s mind?
Give me a break.


15 posted on 09/13/2009 8:45:37 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: classified
How about that! 2 million people show up and NYT says tens of thousands!

Well, the NYT would have said 10 people, but even they know that their readers, using both hands and feet, can count up to 20.

16 posted on 09/13/2009 8:46:00 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: Fireone
How fitting that the failed president would fly off to visit with constituents of the failed comedian, while real Americans are trying to save the country.

Once again the Community Organizer votes 'Not Present'.

17 posted on 09/13/2009 8:48:20 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: muir_redwoods

I can’t imagine that they’d have the guts to show up.


18 posted on 09/13/2009 8:48:30 AM PDT by SoKatt ("Change" is not a strategy!)
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To: sourcery

That is very thoughtful and well-written. Great post.


19 posted on 09/13/2009 8:49:21 AM PDT by Piranha (Obama won like Bernie Madoff attracted investors: by lying about his values, policy and plans.)
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To: GVnana
NYT: Thousands rally with or against Obama

So the New York Times, it all comes out about equal. Never mind that in Minnesota, Obama drew 15 thousand (locals who received free tickets) vs 1500 thousands in DC (people who had to make major commitments of time and money to attend).

20 posted on 09/13/2009 8:54:14 AM PDT by fhayek (You may assume sarcasm in all my posts.)
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