Posted on 09/11/2009 9:50:22 PM PDT by PhilipK9
Howdy, fellow freepers!
I've looked at the HTML code at that horrible "smear Glenn Beck" web site and found something interesting.
It appears that this is not a bunch of jovial Internet pranksters suddenly becoming socialists and deciding to do a character assassination of Glenn Beck.
This is what got my attention:
From the "Glenn Beck slander web site"
<!--meta name="keywords" content="social justice organization,low income family,anti-war,paid sick days, predatory lending,katrina relief,osi-new york,minimum wage,afl-cio,living wage,new orleans, urban education,urban schools, heath care,political,civic engagement,hurricane katrina, political prisoners, gulf coast,rebuilding,rebuild america" /-->
Now compare this with acorn.org's meta-tags:
<meta name="keywords" content="acorn,social justice organization,acrn,acorns,acron,low income family,moderate income family,paid sick days,predatory lending,katrina relief,acorn voter registration,maude hurd,minimum wage,living wage,new orleans,urban education,urban schools,wade rathe,heath care,foreclosure,affordable housing,voter registration,registering voters,voter fraud,voter suppression,political,civic engagement,voter engagement,hurricane katrina,gulf coast,rebuilding,rebuild new orleans,rebuild america" />
In both of them health care is misspelled as "heath care" and a lot of the tags are similar...
Hmmm...
From the donkey excrements a mighty ACORN slander campaign grows!
I didn’t go to the site. I simply used a meta tag extractor, which lists the ACTIVE meta tags, the ones that any search engine will see.
No idea why they buried inactive tags deep in the page.
No idea why they buried inactive tags deep in the page.Well, now, the 1st set of commented-out meta tag "keyword" line(s) wasn't that deep ... and there is that 2nd commented-out set at 15 to 20 lines UP from the bottom ...
The 1st (first) set of commented-out line(s) begins at the 11th (eleventh) 'line' down by my count ...
I would not think that a normally-working tag extractor would pay any attention to HTML 'code' that was coded like an HTML comment <!-- HidComment --> either, so that would explain that ...
Compare the results.Can I ask what is going to be compared?
Firstly, the "heath care" keyword is in a commneted out line of HTML code.
Second, from this post we already know that Bing does not archive commented-out meta tags _so_ the mispelled keyword will not show up in at least any saved/archived Bing copies either ...
They removed the commented out meta-tags now.
Hmmmmm...
- and here is what's added:
<!-- DONT USE HTML COMMENTS TO DISCUSS PAGE SETUP -Kelly -->
Do you get the feeling they have been 'reading' us?
I agree with you about grabbing from your own archives first. That also sort of implies that you would use the same tools as well. The same CMS.
_Jim wrote:
I tend to grab code from my own archives first, and only resort to searches, Google etc after finding out that I don't have what I need; I don't know what/how today's contemporary web authoring tools work, but I suspect there are various Project Settings that link in pre-defined information like meta Keywords (we aren't talking hand-crafting of HTML at this level) ...
Up until now, I really didn’t look much at the ACORN.org page, except to note the keywords meta tag. Looking at it in a little more detail, in light of your comment, I see that ACORN does use a content management system. They are using TYPO3 to create their pages.
The Beck hit site does not use that CMS at all. And the added keywords meta tags (and today’s comments) look like they were just manually added to the HTML code after it was generated by some other (unspecified) CMS tool or editor.
I can tell for sure that it didn't come from TYPO3. TYPO3 handles ampersand characters in the href attribute of anchor tags properly. It escapes them as “&”. Whatever was used to generate the Beck hit site, it left the ampersands in all the hrefs for the anchor tags unescaped (and they fail validation). There is no way that the same CMS tool generated both pages. I wouldn’t entirely rule out that the Beck smear page was created only with an HTML aware “smart” editor, rather than a full CMS. Whatever was used, it contains no “generator” meta tag to identify the tool.
Validate both pages at the W3C Markup Validation Service. Neither page passes validation, but the types of errors that are repeated throughout each page are entirely different. The Beck hit site has a lot of unescaped ampersands in anchor tag href attributes. The ACORN site does not have those types of errors.
BTW, I think what they (the people developing the Beck smear site) were trying to do is to have their page show up with ACORN’s site in search results. They may have (incorrectly) believed that having the same keywords meta tag would put them at about the same rank for the same keywords. I think they just copied those keywords tags in an attempt to steal traffic from searches that brought up the acorn.org site.
http://gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=10075.0Goldmine; I think we have our man.What did you think of this?
Concur all.
Please check ou the form and texture of these two websites:
http://kaleidoscopetheatre.us/index.php?action=profile;u=2
http://www.glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com/
Similar?
Thanks to the effort of some prior posters I as able to do a little digging ... as you all know, this is never a one man show; every little bit helps.
Identical.
_Jim wrote:
Please check ou the form and texture of these two websites:
http://kaleidoscopetheatre.us/index.php?action=profile;u=2
http://www.glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com/
Similar?
Thanks to the effort of some prior posters I as able to do a little digging ... as you all know, this is never a one man show; every little bit helps.
Not just from the look and feel. It's identical all the way down to the relative location and name of the stylesheet file, and the comments in the code.
That has to be a template from somewhere, or an adaptation of a template.
So, who is Isaac Eiland-Hall. Is he affiliated with ACORN? Or some other Obama related radical or group?
Good one! Welcome to FR.
So, who is Isaac Eiland-Hall. Is he affiliated with ACORN? Or some other Obama related radical or group?A really pudgy-faced Michael Moore lookalike?
Take a look at ths thread here, and all your questions will be answered.
http://gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=10075.0
Hat tip to REDWOOD99 for finding it.
Check this out:
http://gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=10075.0
read the first post by peach
then go to:
http://politicalirony.com/2009/09/01/did-glenn-beck-murder-the-american-media/
Follow the link to the police report:
http://imgur.com/3qpo5.png
Do I need to tell you whose police reoort that really is?
Oceander nailed it several posts after peach’s on the original
Someone needs to tell our hero Officer Shelton his name is on a forged arrest report circulating all over the web..
Arizona Carolyn posted that link way upthread. I just re-posted it.
Now why would a hoaxer choose to use that fake rape report?
He clearly isn’t as smart as he thinks, just look at his facebook page... Oceander really did yoemans work on this story...
Hat tip to Arizona Carolyn too!
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