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Court document swears Kenyan birth cert legit- Owner risks perjury in high-profile case
WND ^ | 9/6/09 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 09/06/2009 5:16:18 PM PDT by pissant

With a scheduled hearing date looming Tuesday, Lucas Smith, the man who tried to sell an alleged Barack Obama Kenyan birth certificate on eBay, has filed court papers in a high-profile eligibility case insisting – under threat of perjury – that the Obama birth certificate in his possession is the genuine article.

Smith filed his affidavit through California attorney Orly Taitz, who has spearheaded several lawsuits challenging Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility to serve as president, as part of a case that includes as plaintiff former presidential candidate Alan Keyes.

Taitz posted on her blog Smith's declaration, which claims he obtained the alleged birth certificate from Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya, and insists it's real.

"The true and correct photocopy of the birth certificate obtained is attached to this affidavit as Exhibit A," the declaration reads. "I declare, certify, verify, state and affirm under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States of America that the foregoing statements of fact and descriptions of circumstances and events are true and correct."

Smith's affidavit, which includes a copy of the certificate, has been filed with Judge David Carter of the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California. Carter is scheduled to preside over a hearing on the case on Sept. 8.

Taitz told WND she believes the swiftly approaching court date prompted Smith into action:

"He has been in touch with me for quite a while, and he emailed me the document with his signature," Taitz said. "I think he was trying to figure out the most expedient way to bring his message public, and maybe he felt that because I have a hearing coming, that would be the most expedient way."

Taitz hopes the court will order expedited discovery, a ruling that would open

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
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To: TexasFreeper2009

You are right. The only way to prosecute him for perjury is to prove his is a fake and he knew it. The only way to do that is for Obama to produce his real, certified Hawaiian, long-form birth certificate, and that he’ll never do.

ex animo
davidfarrar


61 posted on 09/06/2009 8:01:16 PM PDT by DavidFarrar (davidfarrar)
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To: Sola Veritas
" I can’t see that a bribed foreign official is any less credible than a local paid informant that is most likely a convicted felon."

Folks, I rest my case. Would you want your case judged by a fool who thinks convicted and paid felons are credible? I've enjoyed Free Republic because we, for the most part, tend not to make sh*t up. For years this has been known as the smart conservative site. Let's keep it that way!

62 posted on 09/06/2009 8:01:41 PM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: Reddy
Sounds like a plan, but so far the Republicans have done nothing but sell us out.....

Lets hope Republicans got an EAR FULL back home in their districts. If they don't wise up, THEY need to go too!

63 posted on 09/06/2009 8:14:32 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: FreeAtlanta

People should be held accountable if it’s true. It is an assault on our constitution. Remember when Schwarzenegger took office in CA? People were quick to point out that as Austrian born, govern(ator) was as far as he could go. On the other hand, what then? Biden? Another election? And it could be as he says, he was born in Hawaii, and he feels addressing it over and over only casts dispersions instead of removing them. But Kenyans seem equally convinced he’s one of theirs.


64 posted on 09/06/2009 8:15:06 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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To: Sola Veritas

Of course, there would have to be an evidentiary hearing first to determine the document’s authenticity. I’m afraid the Court is going to want more than just a purloined, stamped birth certificate to form the necessary predicate to force Obama into responding to this “evidence”, like the Kenyan notary who placed the notary seal on the document, Kenyan hospital officials, et cetera. There is also a chain of custody issue that will probably take years to sort out.

I am sure the conscience of the Court will be shocked if this document was seriously offered as evidence in Tuesday’s hearing.

ex animo
davidfarrar


65 posted on 09/06/2009 8:17:10 PM PDT by DavidFarrar (davidfarrar)
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To: blaquebyrd

Only a dipsheet compares the lunacy of Bush/Cheney bombing the WTCs and the FACT that the marxist punk has yet to cough up his birth certificate.


66 posted on 09/06/2009 8:36:07 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Mr. Smith should post his travel itinerary to Kenya, and preferably show any ticketing or other paperwork that he has demonstrating that this trip was made.

He is committing himself to a serious course of action; his original action of selling on E-Bay was also one, since he could easily have been brought up on criminal fraud charges if a sale had gone through with a large final sale price and the document then turned out to be a fake. It's not unknown for people to undertake bold fraud, of course, but he is showing a persistence that doesn't tailor well with just simple fraud, where generally the fraudster avoids publicity rather than seeking it.

I am very curious to see how all this plays out. I would also very much like to see any similar document from this hospital.

67 posted on 09/06/2009 8:50:59 PM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: All

JB Williams

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

(snip)
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

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A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

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A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

REMEMBER ALINSKY’S ‘RULES FOR RADICALS:

Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your advantage.”

Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.
“One of the criteria for picking the target is the target’s vulnerability ... the other important point in the choosing of a target is that it must be a personification, not something general and abstract.”
According to Alinsky, the organizer — especially a paid organizer from outside — must first overcome suspicion and establish credibility. Next the organizer must begin the task of agitating: rubbing resentments, fanning hostilities, and searching out controversy.

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There are many lawyers and armchair quarterbacks out there who do nothing but sit around and bloviatate, tell us what great lawyers they are, what SHOULD be done- and attack Dr. Orly Taitz. If they are so great, why don’t they get out there and DO something? Where are their clients? Where are their lawsuits?
They condemn Dr. Orly for refusing other lawyer’s help. They laugh at her and ridicule her for her ‘mistakes’. Is it any wonder she refuses their help?

And maybe, just maybe, she doesn’t want another attorney in on her work because she fears him hogging the glory when the usuper is brought down- as the egocentric, bloviating Leo Denofrio would surely do. I don’t blame her one bit on this!
Dr. Orly has put her life’s blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials.
She has even gone to Isreal and Russia to spread the message about Obama’s inelgibility!

She states the case expertly, including the bc and natural born citizen aspect, when not abused by the U.S. state-controlled media. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

Sure, Dr. Orly makes mistakes. We all do. But Dr. Orly is no dummy. How many of us could go to a foreign country, learn 5 languages, establish a successful dental practice, a successful real estate business AND pass the California state bar- one of the hardest in the U.S. to pass?
She may be a ‘mail order’ attorney and not a Harvard lawyer, but she IS an attorney with all the rights and privilages of a Harvard lawyer nevertheless!
The point is; she has the passion, the zeal, the courage of her convictions and the love of America and its freedoms (unlike many of our ‘great’ attorneys and ‘patriots’ who criticize her) that will not let her give up!
She is exhausted. She is nervous. She is frustrated. It is reported that she gets by on 4-5 hours of sleep per night, and her family is very worried about her health- as well as her safety.
She makes mistakes. But she will NOT give up. She will keep on until she gets it right.
So let’s get behind this great little Russian refugee and great American patriot.
Stop tearing her apart. The Obots don’t need our help.
The obots are scared to death of this little lady and her determination. That’s why they come out in droves all over the net on forums, chat rooms and even the national news to attack and ridicule.

God bless this American patriot and keep her safe.

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68 posted on 09/06/2009 9:24:19 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: pissant

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69 posted on 09/06/2009 9:49:28 PM PDT by FreeManWhoCan ("By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes.")
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To: pissant; All

Just wondering ...

Is Orly Taitz filing for a Writ Qou Warranto in her lawsuit ???


70 posted on 09/06/2009 10:01:10 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Non-Sequitur

Well. I’ll be. We agree upon something.

President with Constitutional disability, Vice President becomes acting President. Not qualified or hampered by procedural requirement in any way .. just, boom, no longer President.


71 posted on 09/06/2009 10:14:43 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: pissant

Isn’t this all about discovery? WND was one of the first which said it was a fake/fraud....Mr. Smith realizes this is perjury therefore he would not have ever taken these steps if it was a fake.


72 posted on 09/06/2009 10:19:28 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: faucetman

Then Sarah Palin is next in line...[not Biden or any of the others they were all in on it.]


73 posted on 09/06/2009 10:21:38 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: pissant

“... he emailed me the document with his signature..”

That doesn’t cut it as an affidavit in court. I sure hope he sent her an original notarized copy of his ‘affidavit.’


74 posted on 09/06/2009 10:25:09 PM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: Red Steel

WTF, can’t you post normally?


75 posted on 09/06/2009 10:48:11 PM PDT by calex59 (Hope for a new job counts for creating a job! The dimwits are truly insane.)
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To: calex59

WTF, did you whine to the poster who posted #5?


76 posted on 09/06/2009 11:53:04 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Bookmark


77 posted on 09/07/2009 12:04:54 AM PDT by Revel
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To: NativeNewYorker
I, Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr., do solemnly swear....

No...that's not the way it would work because the election of 2008 would be illegitimate. McCain/Palin may be sworn in after a brief (1 month) interim POTUS (could be Pelosi, as painful as that would be).

78 posted on 09/07/2009 12:58:44 AM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; ...

~~PING for Tuesday


79 posted on 09/07/2009 2:09:59 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: blaquebyrd
Just my 2 cents.

Exactly what your comment is worth.
80 posted on 09/07/2009 2:50:12 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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