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"Signature in the Cell" on C-SPAN's BookTV This Weekend (fascinating book on Intelligent Design)
Evolution News & Views ^ | September 3, 2009 | Stephen Myer, Ph.D.

Posted on 09/05/2009 8:39:50 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

If you weren't able to join us for the official Signature in the Cell book release party at the Seattle Art Museum, you can still watch author Stephen Meyer's presentation this weekend on C-SPAN2's BookTV:

Signature in the Cell: DNA and the Evidence for Intelligent Design

About the Program
Stephen Meyer argues that our DNA provides evidence of an intelligent designer and helps explain how life began. He spoke at the Seattle Art Museum during an event hosted by the Discovery Institute.

Future Airings
* Saturday, September 5th at 7pm (ET)
* Sunday, September 6th at 7am (ET)
* Monday, September 7th at 12pm (ET)
* Tuesday, September 8th at 12am (ET)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; evolution; intelligentdesign; science
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1 posted on 09/05/2009 8:39:51 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Shoot! The Seattle Art Museum is visible from my office window... I wish I’d known.


2 posted on 09/05/2009 8:42:37 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (What came first? The word, or the thought behind the word?)
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


3 posted on 09/05/2009 8:44:36 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: SandyInSeattle

Wow, it never occurred to me that you live so close to the Discovery Institute! Sorry about that :o(


4 posted on 09/05/2009 8:45:47 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

You can write books until you are blue in the face and ID still boils down to “I don’t know so Goddidit.”

It is is the ultimate cop-out and of zero scientific weight and heft.


5 posted on 09/05/2009 8:58:53 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003

You’re supposed to read the pages, not just parrot cult tantrums, ‘dumb.


6 posted on 09/05/2009 9:04:24 AM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: freedumb2003

That is just an Evo caricature. The book does an excellent job pointing out that the only known cause of complex, specified, digital codes (such as DNA) is intelligent design. As such, it is currently the best explanation for the origin of DNA.


7 posted on 09/05/2009 9:07:01 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

No worries. :-)


8 posted on 09/05/2009 9:07:13 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (What came first? The word, or the thought behind the word?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


9 posted on 09/05/2009 9:37:57 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: freedumb2003
You can write books until you are blue in the face and ID still boils down to “I don’t know so Goddidit.” It is is the ultimate cop-out and of zero scientific weight and heft.

How ironic. This leads us to the absurdity that if evolution is false but scientific and creation is true but unscientific. Then inorder to avoid the "cop-out" it is better to espouse a false belief that is scientific than a true doctrine that is unscientific.

10 posted on 09/05/2009 9:42:47 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin is our Iron Lady of the North)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
How ironic. This leads us to the absurdity that if evolution is false but scientific and creation is true but unscientific. Then inorder to avoid the "cop-out" it is better to espouse a false belief that is scientific than a true doctrine that is unscientific.

I mean that TToE meets all criteria for science and ID/Creationism exactly zero.

ID cannot be applied to anything scientific. Understanding of TToE is the basis for most drug research, among other practical applications.

"Right" and "wrong" are philosophical concepts and I am more than happy to discuss ID/Creationism, creation legends, etc. in a philosophical (if somewhat sophomoric) context. But they do not belong in a scientific discussion.

11 posted on 09/05/2009 9:59:50 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: GodGunsGuts
He spoke at the Seattle Art Museum during an event hosted by the Discovery Institute.

Many laughed, some threw tomatoes.

Does this guy think the world is only six thousand years old?

If so, I'd have been a tomato tosser.

12 posted on 09/05/2009 10:17:25 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: freedumb2003
“I don’t know so Goddidit.”

God is in the gaps. The trouble with this is that the gaps keep getting smaller and fewer. Who want a god that gets smaller and fewer?

13 posted on 09/05/2009 10:22:04 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: freedumb2003
ID cannot be applied to anything scientific. Understanding of TToE is the basis for most drug research, among other practical applications. "Right" and "wrong" are philosophical concepts and I am more than happy to discuss ID/Creationism, creation legends, etc. in a philosophical (if somewhat sophomoric) context. But they do not belong in a scientific discussion.

You seem to worship "scientism". Why believe in a false doctrine just because it's scientific and reject a true doctrine because it is not.

Should we not expand our knowledge beyond the boundaries of science if it leads us closer to the truth?

sci·en·tism (sī'ən-tĭz'əm) n. The collection of attitudes and practices considered typical of scientists. The belief that the investigative methods of the physical sciences are applicable or justifiable in all fields of inquiry

14 posted on 09/05/2009 10:49:59 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin is our Iron Lady of the North)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
You seem to worship "scientism". Why believe in a false doctrine just because it's scientific and reject a true doctrine because it is not.

Rather arrogant of you. I worship God. I understand science.

Should we not expand our knowledge beyond the boundaries of science if it leads us closer to the truth?

Yes we should. Just don't call it science. Call it philosophy or theology.

The belief that the investigative methods of the physical sciences are applicable or justifiable in all fields of inquiry

Re-read my prior post. Science doesn't explain everything. But do not conflate the non-science ideas such as ID and Creationism with science.

I post on these threads from time to time to let the world at large know there are Christian Conservatives who know the difference.

15 posted on 09/05/2009 10:58:53 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: humblegunner

DI’s agenda is to get acceptance of ID as an “alternate theory” and to use it as the camel’s nose under the tent to then get Creationism (including and especially Young Earth Creationism) as yet another “alternate theory.”

Sadly, these so-called “Christians” are using one of two devices:

1) They know what a Scientific Theory is and are prevaricating despite its very clear definition (bearing false witness); or

2) They do NOT know what a Scientific Theory is and are willfully ignoring the definition even when presented with it (also bearing false witness).

Reading the Bible doesn’t make one a Christian. It is what you DO that determines that.


16 posted on 09/05/2009 11:04:58 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003
Science:


17 posted on 09/05/2009 11:13:56 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

FWIIW, I got a time-out for posting something similar a few years ago.


18 posted on 09/05/2009 11:19:10 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003
Yes we should. Just don't call it science. Call it philosophy or theology.

The study of ultimate origins includes many spheres of study. Both scientific, philosophical, theological etc. They may at times overlap where lines become blurred and cause conflict. But that's life.


19 posted on 09/05/2009 11:21:37 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin is our Iron Lady of the North)
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To: freedumb2003

Thanks for the heads-up.

I just think it epitomizes the quackery of the young-earth ideal.


20 posted on 09/05/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by humblegunner
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