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And this is why it is absolutely critical that we take back the Congress and as many state legislatures as possible in 2010. If we don't do it then, it'll be too late.

BTW, as far as I can see, there is no part of the US Code that mandates you answer questions from a Commerce Department contractor (i.e., ACORN). If I understand correctly, the law (Title 13 US Code) only mandates you answer questions posed to you by an actual government employee. Please, somebody, correct me if I'm wrong.

1 posted on 08/25/2009 11:22:40 AM PDT by markomalley
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2 posted on 08/25/2009 11:24:09 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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the sooner we get rid of acorn and orgs like it the better. but i dont hear anyone calling for end of funding in the republican party....is anyone listening to john mcpain...lol


3 posted on 08/25/2009 11:25:30 AM PDT by dalebert
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It will ALREADY BE TOO LATE by the mid-term elections in 2010. The census count will be mostly already done by then.

State elections may be just as important in mitigating the census damage, because legislatures and governors will be in charge of redistricting using the new census stats.

Gerrymandering is a fine art, and a destructive one in the wrong hands.


4 posted on 08/25/2009 11:27:18 AM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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Not to mention that ACORN, an organization that should be investigated under the RICO statutes, has been tasked with
“assitsting” in the census process by the Obama Administration.


5 posted on 08/25/2009 11:28:05 AM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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Counting illegal aliens does indeed violate one-person one-vote rules.

In fact, the apportionment should be based on the number valid citizens of voting age.


6 posted on 08/25/2009 11:29:29 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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Your problem is that ACORN will not be hired as a “CONTRACT” officially, they’ll merely hire (former or current) acorn “volunteers” or paid workers to work as Department of Commerce employees on an idividual basis.

I agree with you that it is cruical that we take Back State Legislatures (this may be more important than Congress as well..in the long term).


9 posted on 08/25/2009 11:38:09 AM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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Argument II for unconstitutionality:

1) Census workers gathered GPS data on the location of citizens homes, with no compelling reason tio do so, other than warrentless search and seizure opportunity usinng surveilance by Satellite and Sureillance drones.

2) No one gave permisssion for the establishing of their personal home location in such a geo sat data base. It was unilaterally gathered without the consent or knowledge of the citizenry.

3) The data can be entered into military nav systems of aircraft and loaded into attack cruise missiles and smart bombs , for example.Few citizens know about or are informed about this possibility.

The gathering of military intelligence in such an executive data base on US citizens is unconstitutional.For that reason, citizens are encouraged to refuse census data to census workers.DO NOT PARTICIPATE!


10 posted on 08/25/2009 11:40:44 AM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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The results and effects of this non-census will still be under litigation in 2020, when the next one takes place.


12 posted on 08/25/2009 11:51:44 AM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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FTA: “The bottom line is, critics assert, millions of illegal immigrants will be counted for apportionment purposes, handing states with large illegal immigrant populations - California, Texas, Florida - new congressional seats at the expense of others.”

So everyone in the remaining 47 states need to overstate their numbers to offset the illegal aliens in CA, TX, and FL. I’m in California so I can’t participate in the numbers inflation idea, but it should be pushed especially hard in the reddest of the red states.

Spread the word far and wide. If every conservative household added 2 people to their official census numbers we/they could effectively shift the congressional apportionment to our side.


14 posted on 08/25/2009 11:58:10 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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“The census, it turns out, is planning to count everybody, as usual, per the constitution, but this year for the first time residents will not asked if they are citizens. In other words, there will no longer be a delineation between legal residents and total population.”

That is complete B.S.

Either the writer is too lazy to do actual research of the 2000 Census or is choosing to put out incorrect information.

In Census 2000 respondents were not asked about their citizen status on the Short Form.

http://www.census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/d61a.pdf

15 posted on 08/25/2009 12:02:32 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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We now live in a Melaninocracy. Ba$tards.


17 posted on 08/25/2009 12:08:26 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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I totally agree. The census is about legal representation by our elected Representatives. Illegal aliens have no representation.


21 posted on 08/25/2009 12:14:15 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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“Republicans say ACORN workers have been convicted of filing fraudulent voter registration forms in the past and the group is both politically biased and ethically untrustworthy.”

Republicans do not “say” IT’S A PROVEN FACT!


22 posted on 08/25/2009 12:15:29 PM PDT by Grunthor (Lord, let me take my faith as seriously as muslims take theirs.)
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28 posted on 08/25/2009 12:28:43 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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BTW, as far as I can see, there is no part of the US Code that mandates you answer questions from a Commerce Department contractor (i.e., ACORN). If I understand correctly, the law (Title 13 US Code) only mandates you answer questions posed to you by an actual government employee. Please, somebody, correct me if I’m wrong.
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Isn’t it in our interests to at least tell them how many live in our household (right?)

But, the way they count the elections in WA and MN, you can guarantee they’ll mess with the census numbers.

I do NOT trust them as far as I can throw ‘em. Maybe we should try that? THROW ‘EM OUT!!


29 posted on 08/25/2009 12:29:35 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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30 posted on 08/25/2009 12:30:30 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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The census is being used by Obama for Partisan political reasons. Boycott the census. Government intrusion of Privacy.


32 posted on 08/25/2009 12:33:45 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (It requires the willing suspension of disbelief to believe what Obama says about Healthcare reform.)
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I hope that there will be suits in court blocking this count done this way from happening, and if that does not succeed, suits after the count challenging the results. Any red state that has grown and deserves a new seat or new seats in the US may well have to sue and fight very hard to get its citizens deserve.


37 posted on 08/25/2009 1:11:55 PM PDT by bvw
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I agree you can not count non citizens because they don’t get representation!


39 posted on 08/25/2009 1:18:41 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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And this is why it is absolutely critical that we take back the Congress and as many state legislatures as possible in 2010. If we don't do it then, it'll be too late.

they will have their numbers in place for Nov 2010 - false or not...I fear there will not be a legitimate election again -

These socialist/marxists have had their ducks in a row for a long time... I suspicion the only 'hope' we have is that, somehow, the little caesar is dethroned long before then

40 posted on 08/25/2009 1:19:11 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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