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1 posted on 08/24/2009 9:23:30 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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No matter where you go ... there you are.


2 posted on 08/24/2009 9:24:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Obama is the center of the universe comrade.


3 posted on 08/24/2009 9:25:27 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: GodGunsGuts

Obama thinks HE is at the center of the universe.


4 posted on 08/24/2009 9:25:38 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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Seriously, I wouldn’t be surprised...

Everything about our solar system and our place in the galaxy/universe is to provide a habitable observation platform for humans.


5 posted on 08/24/2009 9:26:37 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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bttp.


6 posted on 08/24/2009 9:26:54 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From Barack Hussein Al-Obama. Amen.)
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To: All; allmendream; ElectricStrawberry; ColdWater; UCANSEE2; count-your-change; Gordon Greene; ...
This could very well support a number of creation cosmologists who place the milky way at or near the center of the Universe. To get an idea of why the Earth being at the center of the Universe is so controversial, see the 2002 article by creation cosmologist Dr. Russell Humphreys entitled The Battle for the Cosmic Center
8 posted on 08/24/2009 9:28:02 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Here’s the last line from the article:

“See? Just like it says in Genesis! The End.”

Thank God for science!


9 posted on 08/24/2009 9:28:39 AM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Preposterous.


10 posted on 08/24/2009 9:30:38 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: GodGunsGuts
I recently surmised that light we can see is dated and to some extent limited by the speed at which matter and light in the universe travels. Matter traveling in opposite directions at near the speed of light (as is surmised at the time of the big bang), may not appear at the correct current or past distance.

If this is true, there is a limited bubble of what we might be able to see directly. It also explains our odd theorized shape of the universe with respect to the origin of the theoretical big bang.

The big question.....Does motion affect the speed of light relative to a static point in space? Or is light speed truly constant?

11 posted on 08/24/2009 9:32:41 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: GodGunsGuts

That would make ours one of the youngest galaxies in the universe.


12 posted on 08/24/2009 9:32:44 AM PDT by wastedyears (Genesis, Sega CD and Saturn work, and my 360 red rings after 2 and a half years.)
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Would it matter if we were?


16 posted on 08/24/2009 9:34:04 AM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Since the universe is non-Euclidian it has no center.


17 posted on 08/24/2009 9:34:14 AM PDT by Natural Law
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We don't have to be literally in the center of the Universe to be in the apple of God's eye.

If our Galaxy is indeed central then that's great. But it's not necessary. God just doesn't seem to do the obvious thing, go the obvious route: a great artist doesn't do platitudes.

21 posted on 08/24/2009 9:39:21 AM PDT by agere_contra
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An alternative cosmology that doesn’t require dark energy may have the effect of putting the Milky Way near the center of the universe.

I suppose the focus on the Milky Way is to get around the problem of the Earth not even being in the center of our own galaxy, but the problem the Creationists don't account for is the Milky Way isn't even the center of the local cluster.

22 posted on 08/24/2009 9:41:39 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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So you lunatics are returning gradually to geocentrism? You should have burned Galileo when you had the chance.


23 posted on 08/24/2009 9:41:43 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Nothing about this says anything about Evolution. I understand how this might make creations “feel” better in some sense, but I don’t think anyone who believes in evolution is going to be bothered with this, evolutionarily speaking.


27 posted on 08/24/2009 9:45:45 AM PDT by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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Are We at the Center of the Universe? (new solution to Einstein's field equations may put us there!)

To dispute this would be blasphemy!
Hah, where's Copernicus when you need him?

30 posted on 08/24/2009 9:48:13 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I've known some people who thought they were....
37 posted on 08/24/2009 9:53:25 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

More like: on a cosmological scale, the notion of “center” is either meaningless or misunderstood. Too often we fail to recognize ours is a very very small and narrow existence and perception thereof.


39 posted on 08/24/2009 9:53:28 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (flag@whitehouse.gov may bounce messages but copies may be kept. Informants are still solicited.)
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Here's an inconvenient quote from Space.com that CEH failed to note.

To convince other cosmologists, the new model will have to pass muster with further inquiry.

"There are many observational tests of the standard cosmological model that the proposed model must pass, aside from the late phase of accelerated expansion," said Avi Loeb, director of the Institute for Theory and Computation at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. "These include big bang nucleosynthesis, the quantitative details of the microwave background anisotropies, the Lyman-alpha forest, and galaxy surveys. The authors do not discuss how their model compares to these tests, and whether the number of free parameters they require in order to fit these observational constraints is smaller than in the standard model. Until they do so, it is not clear why this alternative model should be regarded as advantageous."

Johns Hopkins University astrophysicist Mario Livio agreed that to be seriously considered, the model must be able to predict properties of the universe that astronomers can measure.

He said the real test "is in whether they are able to reproduce all the observed cosmological parameters (as determined, e.g. by a combination of the Hubble Constant and the parameters determined by the CMB observations). To only produce an apparent acceleration is in itself interesting, but not particularly meaningful."

In other words, this theory is at the proposal stage now and has never been tested.

48 posted on 08/24/2009 10:06:09 AM PDT by DallasMike
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