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Fed to Steal State Pension Funds?
American Daughter - Front Page ^ | August 22, 2009 | Earl Voak

Posted on 08/22/2009 9:25:05 PM PDT by Earl Voak

Congress may confiscate every state pension fund into the bankrupt social security system. Indications that this strategy is being discussed in Washington have come in to us from several sources over the last few days.

Tonight, a correspondent who has just come home from a Tea Party Townhall Meeting in Salado, Texas with US Representative John Carter (R-Round Rock) issued the warning. She said, "Representative Carter informed the crowd that talk has been bandied about Congress to appropriate every state's pension plans into the bankrupt Social Security System." She is absolutely 100% sure that she understood him correctly.

Dear readers, please understand that we are bloggers, and not professional journalists. Our information comes from ordinary folk who do the best they can to understand the political scene. Ordinarily, this would seem so outrageous that we would wait to share the news until we could get more clarification. But the current administration has moved with such breathtaking swiftness to federalize private assets and plunge our country into socialism, that we feel the need to sound the alarm, just in case.

We'll keep updating this post as we find out more.

It's Not a New Idea

From the Friday, January 29, 1993 issue of the Washington Post we have this article (archived by the Seattle Times) -- Budget Cuts Vs. Social Security -- Tap Pension Funds Worth $4 Trillion, Panel Tells Clinton -- Employers Sense Danger 'Once They Get Taste Of This':

A bipartisan government commission yesterday recommended to the Clinton administration that it launch an aggressive effort to tap the retirement funds of millions of Americans to help pay for rebuilding the nation's roads, bridges and highways and give the economy a lift.

President Clinton has indicated past support for the concept, which would represent an unprecedented effort by the federal government to deal with its budget woes by turning to the more than $4 trillion in cash, stocks and other investments held by pension funds.

Some opponents in the pension industry, who worry about protecting retirees, said they fear Congress might revoke the generous tax treatment afforded pensions if they actively oppose the initiative.

The recommendations by the congressionally chartered Infrastructure Investment Commission, which has had the strong support of Senate Finance Committee Chairman Daniel Patrick Moynihan, D-N.Y., include establishing the National Infrastructure Corp. It would be a new government-sponsored corporation that would encourage at least $30 billion in investment by pension funds. Several billion dollars in seed money for the new corporation would come from a new energy tax now under consideration.

Energy tax. Sound familiar?

10:19PM  Full Metal Patriot -- Congress is planning to raid EVERY state's pension funds to prop up Social Security. This blogger has done some background research, and reminds us of earlier attempts to "redirect" retirement assets:

This rumor definitely caught my attention. After doing a little investigation, it looks like it's entirely true. Last year, House Democrats were contemplating abolishing 401(k) tax breaks and redirecting those funds into a new system of government-controlled retirement accounts to which all workers would be forced to contribute. And more information about the Democrats' immoral plans to ransack every American's personal retirement has been reported on CNN, The Wall Street Journal, and Carolina Journal. Now that they control both houses of Congress and have a big-government socialist in the White House, it looks as though Democrats are ramping up their machinations.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; 401k; agenda; congress; corruption; cwii; democrats; donttreadonme; economy; liberalfascism; lping; pensions; security; social; socialsecurity; state; statepensions; statesrights
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To: umgud

“BTW, most of our CA pensions are broke.”

Which ones?


21 posted on 08/22/2009 9:50:58 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Earl Voak

Sweet! If this planning has any truth to it, the Democrats will help assure that Republicans get tons of otherwise liberal vote heading the GOP way.


22 posted on 08/22/2009 9:51:08 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Liberals have no integrity, character, or shame.)
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To: investigateworld; All
Related.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2320225/posts
23 posted on 08/22/2009 9:52:25 PM PDT by allmost
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To: chris_bdba
Pensions for State workers in the various 57 states I imagine

Billions of dollars, already stolen by union thugs and politicians in the respective states.

Now the feds want to steal them?

LOL, they will have to fight the other thieves for them!

24 posted on 08/22/2009 9:52:40 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: ClearCase_guy
Two brothers on their way
Two brothers on their way
Two brothers on their way
One wore blue
And one wore grey

One wore blue and one wore grey
As they marched along the way
A fife and drum began to play
All on a beautiful morning

25 posted on 08/22/2009 9:53:41 PM PDT by Charles Martel (NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
"We’ll have our own Nuremberg trials in DC, and Obama, Pelosi and Reid will all be marched to the gallows for treason."

I sure hope so. A lot more than these 3 will be heading these.

26 posted on 08/22/2009 9:54:15 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Earl Voak

National Infrastructure Investment Act would help address these problems by creating an instrument that can help finance long-range investments with public and private capital...

See B. Schwartz and Third Way


27 posted on 08/22/2009 10:07:52 PM PDT by endthematrix (The Name of the Game is BAILOUT.)
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To: 1035rep

Stories abound. Go to this link for one of many stories.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106689576


28 posted on 08/22/2009 10:09:19 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: Earl Voak

And there goes the NEA


29 posted on 08/22/2009 10:10:24 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Earl Voak

Rush Limbaugh used to talk about this happening during the campaign.

I remember a while back when Jesse Jackson got the DNC to endorse the idea of government siezure of private retirement accounts to fund reparations.


30 posted on 08/22/2009 10:10:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Toward the TOTUS State-Nightmare in Obamaland .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: JrsyJack

Union members will still get theirs, you can bank on that


31 posted on 08/22/2009 10:12:07 PM PDT by GeronL (Toward the TOTUS State-Nightmare in Obamaland .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Earl Voak
It is not only state pensions but 401Ks as well. Thankfully, since being reported on GOPUSA and other sources, Americans are finally starting to hear about Barack Obama's socialist agenda. His income tax policy of taking money from one group and giving it to another group who doesn't pay income tax is simply a welfare program. With Democrats in charge of the U.S. House, Senate, and the White House, that's exactly the kind of big-government program we would get. And it doesn't stop there.
32 posted on 08/22/2009 10:13:32 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Earl Voak

If I understand this story correctly, one government (federal) wants to steal from other governments (states) in order to make sure that normal, non-government Americans who have earned their social security checks (by dumping money into the system during their working lives) keep getting them. I’m not sure how concerned I should be.


33 posted on 08/22/2009 10:15:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ConservativeMind
Sweet! If this planning has any truth to it, the Democrats will help assure that Republicans get tons of otherwise liberal vote heading the GOP way.

Don't bet on it

Today the White House in an emergency move to stave off a national disaster has nationalized all state pension funds across the country that were set to default.

"This move will ensure that your future retirement benefits are secure from defaulting. We were within weeks of a meltdown and we believe it has been averted" The President said at a hastily planned press conference.

34 posted on 08/22/2009 10:16:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Toward the TOTUS State-Nightmare in Obamaland .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Lancey Howard
If I understand this story correctly, one government (federal) wants to steal from other governments (states) in order to make sure that normal, non-government Americans who have earned their social security checks (by dumping money into the system during their working lives) keep getting them. I’m not sure how concerned I should be.

Because the federal government is simply going to be shifting the burden of all that debt (those retirement funds are as fictional as the social security trust fund) to the taxpayers.

Of course you are 100%, the federal government needs to havr total control of everything to make everything better.

36 posted on 08/22/2009 10:20:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Toward the TOTUS State-Nightmare in Obamaland .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Lancey Howard
If I understand this story correctly, one government (federal) wants to steal from other governments (states) in order to make sure that normal, non-government Americans who have earned their social security checks (by dumping money into the system during their working lives) keep getting them. I’m not sure how concerned I should be.

Because the federal government is simply going to be shifting the burden of all that debt (those retirement funds are as fictional as the social security trust fund) to the taxpayers.

Of course you are 100%, the federal government needs to havr total control of everything to make everything better.

37 posted on 08/22/2009 10:20:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Toward the TOTUS State-Nightmare in Obamaland .. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Earl Voak

Where exactly is this in the US Constitution?

This action would be illegal, unethical, immoral, and . . . but we’re talking about a Democrat controlled Congress aren’t we?


38 posted on 08/22/2009 10:20:19 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (At Thermopylae, 1 Million Persians lost 20 Thousand yet failed to disarm 300 Spartans. Molon Labe!)
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To: ConservativeMind
"Sweet! If this planning has any truth to it, the Democrats will help assure that Republicans get tons of otherwise liberal vote heading the GOP way."

At the rate Obama is going, I wouldn't count on there being an election. But if there is, It will be just for show.

People better seriously start looking at their 401k, and getting them converted into other investments, then start slipping them into markets out of the country.

buying gold and silver bullion isn't safe either. If they are desperate enough to steal our 401ks, they'll take our gold too, just like they did in the 30's.

First they took control of the banks, now they have control over all your money held in them whether its cash or investments. I wonder how many smaller private banks these big government owned banks they (with all your pension investment funds in them) have been secretly buying up?

39 posted on 08/22/2009 10:24:48 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: glock rocks
Flash point. Are they really this stupid?

No, they are this greedy. Remember, these people think they RULE us.

40 posted on 08/22/2009 10:26:47 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (The way to destroy a countercultural movement is to have white people start liking it.)
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