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Obama Administration: Depressed and Disabled Veterans Should Consider Foregoing Medical Care
IsraPundit ^
| 8/19/09
| Bill Levinson
Posted on 08/19/2009 2:52:03 PM PDT by Winged Hussar
Depression, disability, and "being a financial burden" could constitute "Lebensunwerte Leben" (Life Unworthy of Life) in U.S. Government end of life planning document
"The Death Book for Veterans: Ex-soldiers don't need to be told they're a burden to society" by Jim Towey in today's (August 18) Wall Street Journal says,
Last year, bureaucrats at the VA's National Center for Ethics in Health Care advocated a 52-page end-of-life planning document, "Your Life, Your Choices." It was first published in 1997 and later promoted as the VA's preferred living will throughout its vast network of hospitals and nursing homes. After the Bush White House took a look at how this document was treating complex health and moral issues, the VA suspended its use. Unfortunately, under President Obama, the VA has now resuscitated "Your Life, Your Choices."
We downloaded this document directly from the Veterans Administration, and the content suggests that both family finances and depression--a non-terminal illness--could constitute Lebensunwerte Leben, or "life unworthy of life." Smoke is generally indicative of fire and, although HR 3200 says nothing about mandatory end of life planning, euthanasia, or anything else similar to Germany's Aktion T4 program--the euthanasia program that served as a precedent for the Holocaust--we have shown (http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=16320) that there is indeed fire to go with the smoke. "Your Life, Your Choices" is simply more evidence, and it even suggests that war veterans with depression consider themselves a burden on the society that sent them to war.
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To: timydnuc; afnamvet
AMEN and thank you to ALL the vets. We all owe you our freedom and our lives.
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posted on
08/19/2009 7:06:46 PM PDT
by
USAHOME
To: the long march
This is not an out of line set of questions. Take the long march Maoboy, back to DU. zot
162
posted on
08/19/2009 7:14:59 PM PDT
by
xone
To: STARWISE
"Lebensunwerte Leben"I can't believe those words are actually printed on the form! Are we living in 1930s Germany?
163
posted on
08/19/2009 7:45:50 PM PDT
by
silent_jonny
("... in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye ..." 1 Corinthians, Chapter 15)
To: Winged Hussar
Change you can live die with.
To: Jeffrey_D.
Use their words "My Body My Choice" against them. Brilliant point!!
To: driftdiver
Well, I’d rather waste away at home than in a VA hospital, but if I’m wasting away, in pain, and messing myself, I’m afraid hiking and sailing will be a bit of a stretch.
To: CodeToad
“Just plain sick. Liberals have no value for life except thier own.”
Agreed. But they do somehow discover the right to life, on Death Row...
To: musicman
168
posted on
08/19/2009 8:10:12 PM PDT
by
musicman
(Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
To: driftdiver
"screw the painkillers in some depressing hospital. go sailing or hiking in the wilderness." Yea right. Try going hiking or sailing when your confined to a wheelchair and in agony with a worn out hip, pads, bad knees, a compressed spine.
To: Winged Hussar
The Death Panel Survey - this is tangible proof of their mindset. Circulate to everybody.
Excellent useful point about “My Body - My Choice”.
Hey Dems, this survey doesn’t fall under pro-choice or pro-life. It’s pro-death, no choice/no life.
To: the long march
Why “Long March”? Was “Great Leap” taken?
To: True Republican Patriot
Terri S was already dead. she had no brain except a tiny bit of brain stem that kept her heart beatings and lungs breathing. She was literally a living copse. No brain, no pain.
In fact when they open her skull it poured out into a jar.
And no her husband didn't murder her.
As far as her family wanting to care for her, try examining all the facts. that was IF they got a new house, and money, plus a healthy dose of taxpayers money as well. They weren't all that willing after they found out there was no money.
Allowing her body to die naturally was the humane thing to do. She wasn't Euthanized. If she had ANY brain function she could have ate anytime she wanted. The evidence of food in her lungs from those foolishly attempting to make her swallow was cruelty. It was attempted many times by rehab people to try retrain her to swallow many times over the years, but there simply was no brain function (no brain at all in fact)to make that possible.
To: ExTexasRedhead
I saw this..and it is just too stunning. I had told Ozzie that I feared this would come to the vets too..just trash us after 20 or 30 or more years of service and wounds incurred in Service of our country. Kick us in the dirt and give our survivors our flag.
While this guy is in The Vinyard, we can hope he falls off a yacht and gets eated by a shark.
173
posted on
08/19/2009 9:18:53 PM PDT
by
celtic gal
(My Mob name is" Molly Maguire" per Hannity...we all need mob names !)
To: celtic gal
should have had my glasses on when I typed that..excuse the misspellings...my real bad on that!
174
posted on
08/19/2009 9:20:21 PM PDT
by
celtic gal
(My Mob name is" Molly Maguire" per Hannity...we all need mob names !)
To: Winged Hussar
Disgusting human debris!
175
posted on
08/19/2009 9:21:34 PM PDT
by
luvie
(We want freedom; obama is giving us tyranny--all across the board! ~Michael Ledeen~)
To: Nathan Zachary
Choose to believe what YOU wish! You must be Michael’s brother:-P
176
posted on
08/19/2009 9:23:24 PM PDT
by
True Republican Patriot
(May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
To: mel
Why ever not could people not believe this? This administration is all for killing babies that survive botched abortion, is really all for kicking the sick and elderly into an early grave if making their lives more comfortable or perish the thought, get them well. So for the vets who come home from war with wounds that require limbs or far more care, not to mention help for PTSD..why not just kick us aside too. Just look at all the $$$$$$$$ that would be saved in terms of not only medicare, tricare, tricare for life, disability payments..wow getting rid of veterans could really be a boon for Comrade 0bama...
Why if we were patriotic, we would just volunteer to kick the bucket for him. (sarc)
177
posted on
08/19/2009 9:24:51 PM PDT
by
celtic gal
(My Mob name is" Molly Maguire" per Hannity...we all need mob names !)
To: USAHOME
You are welcome. In our house there is a total of 63 years of service combined.
178
posted on
08/19/2009 9:25:58 PM PDT
by
celtic gal
(My Mob name is" Molly Maguire" per Hannity...we all need mob names !)
To: LucyT
179
posted on
08/19/2009 9:30:11 PM PDT
by
1COUNTER-MORTER-68
(THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
To: All
Wtf??? This is how a proud warrior nation treats its heroes? Despicable.
180
posted on
08/19/2009 9:34:07 PM PDT
by
JerseyDvl
(Since they call Bush, "Dubya" then I must insist on calling Barry, "Hussein" *2009=1984 on steroids*)
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