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ID's Unlikely Defender (atheist defends intelligent design!)
Breakpoint ^ | Tom Gilson

Posted on 08/18/2009 8:50:33 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Supporters of intelligent design are accustomed to fending off charges that ID is a front for creationism, a theocratically inspired ploy to sneak God and religion into the public schools and effectively put an end to real science in our country.

Barbara Forrest, a professor of philosophy in Louisiana, puts it this way:...

(Excerpt) Read more at breakpoint.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; evolution; intelligentdesign; science
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1 posted on 08/18/2009 8:50:33 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: allmendream; dmz; ElectricStrawberry; goodusername; xcamel; Caramelgal; UCANSEE2; Gordon Greene; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 08/18/2009 8:53:11 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

From the Cracker himself: http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&y=Search&fr=yfp-t-501&p=Tom+Gilson+creationist


3 posted on 08/18/2009 8:53:47 AM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

What now? Are you not a creationist? You are posting an article that says ID is valid because it’s NOT creation???

So ID is atheism now?

I can only get one common theme across all your posts, ‘Evolution is BAD’


4 posted on 08/18/2009 8:56:09 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: GodGunsGuts

Well, this would solve the problem. Teach ID in the philosophy class, as I have long suggested.


5 posted on 08/18/2009 8:58:18 AM PDT by freespirited (The only thing growing faster than the deficit is Chris Matthews' man crush on Obama -- Tim Pawlenty)
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To: sickoflibs
proof of what happens when someone forgets to chlorinate the gene pool.
6 posted on 08/18/2009 8:59:18 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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Funny.


7 posted on 08/18/2009 9:01:29 AM PDT by FormerRep
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To: org.whodat

How do you know he’s white, and why are using racist black slang to refer to the author’s supposed ethnicity?


8 posted on 08/18/2009 9:02:53 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: xcamel

Seems to be no logical chain here, this is the shotgun approach hoping some pellets will hit something.


9 posted on 08/18/2009 9:03:08 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: xcamel

You are living proof of that.


10 posted on 08/18/2009 9:04:20 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: sickoflibs

Your just upset that your fellow evo-atheists are starting to break ranks and declare that ID asks valid scientific questions. Your pain is palpable.


11 posted on 08/18/2009 9:07:02 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


12 posted on 08/18/2009 9:09:36 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: GodGunsGuts

I thought you were a creationist, Now you post a atheist ID post that disses Creationism?

I know, “evolution bad, the details dont matter , dont think about it too much”

it’s the frequency of the bad evolution posts that count.


13 posted on 08/18/2009 9:13:21 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: sickoflibs

According to one of your fellow atheists and author of the book reviewed above, you are missing the most important question, SOL. Why do you avoid it so?


14 posted on 08/18/2009 9:17:40 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

RE :”According to one of your fellow atheists “

Apparently your fellow atheists. Dont your atheistic IDers claim creationism is black magic too?


15 posted on 08/18/2009 9:26:30 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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‘Evolution is BAD’

I thought it was Darwinism (as he understands it) that he hated.

16 posted on 08/18/2009 9:32:48 AM PDT by gundog (And a babe shall lead them. -Sarah 20:12)
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I thought you were a creationist, Now you post a atheist ID post that disses Creationism?

Care to comment on this from the article rather than the red herring you are waving?

“I’ve been told that the battle over intelligent design is like a war between two camps,” he writes, “but one of the purposes of this book is to transcend that.” Perhaps that sounds idealistic. An early reviewer warned him that if he tried to remain neutral on the “cultural war” represented by ID, he would necessarily “serve one side.” Monton responds, “my goal is simply to evaluate the arguments on both sides as objectively as I can. If this ends up serving one side more than the other, I don’t care; my goal is to do the best I can to get at the truth.”

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The other important question is what this book will contribute to the ID controversy. Is an atheist’s defense an unconditional blessing for intelligent design? Not necessarily. Ironically, it could end up being the most dangerous force ID has ever encountered. And that’s a good thing.

17 posted on 08/18/2009 9:36:47 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: GodGunsGuts

Impossible in your narrow minded little world.


18 posted on 08/18/2009 9:40:07 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: AndrewC
What does this have to do with Creation and Noah's Ark?

GodGuns is a creationist posting an article from a Christian blog by an atheist that supposedly likes ID. So is this article trying to make an argument against itself like the 1980s scientific Creationist arguments did?? The article subtitle is "Seeking God in Science" then goes on to argue ID is not about creation. Read this non-sense closely:

Seeking God in Science: A new book challenges those assumptions, arguing that ID actually is science, that it is not necessarily tied to belief in God, that it is distinct from creationism,...

19 posted on 08/18/2009 9:51:57 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: GodGunsGuts

Ping for later.


20 posted on 08/18/2009 9:58:52 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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