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Are liberals seceding from sanity? The left is crazy to insult white Southerners as a group
Salon ^ | August 11, 2009 | Michael Lind

Posted on 08/16/2009 12:20:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Back in the 1960s, Seymour Martin Lipset and Richard Hofstadter and other liberal sociologists, historians and political scientists, puzzled that anyone could support Barry Goldwater rather than Lyndon Johnson, concluded that Goldwater supporters were deranged. They didn't say so directly, of course. They said that members of the radical right were emotionally disturbed victims of "status anxiety." The evidence? They didn't vote the way that Lipset and other academics thought that they should vote. Therefore they had to be crazy.

In the decades since, far better scholars than Hofstadter and Lipset, for whom history and sociology are not exercises in partisan Democratic mythmaking, have established that Goldwater and Reagan Republicans often were highly educated, socially secure individuals who happened not to share the values of liberal professors and journalists. This scholarship has been wasted, to judge by the glee with which the liberal blogosphere, in the aftermath of the ephemeral "Birther" flap, has dusted off the old conservatives-are-crazy meme, and revised it to suggest that all white Southerners are crazy.

In a recent Washington Post column, Kathleen Parker quoted Ohio Sen. George Voinovich's assertion that the Republican Party is "being taken over by Southerners" to suggest that the GOP risks becoming a permanent minority party of the old Confederacy. In itself this is a legitimate point that I and many other critics of Republican conservatism have made for years. However, at Mother Jones, the blogger Kevin Drum used Parker's political argument as an excuse for all-too-typical liberal Southern-bashing. According to Drum: "There are, needless to say, plenty of individual Southern whites who are wholly admirable. But taken as a whole, Southern white culture is [redacted]. Jim Webb can pretty it up all he wants, but it's a [redacted]." Drum did the redacting on his own blog post, explaining he'd blacked out the offending text "on the advice of my frontal lobe."

Drum's creepy bigotry becomes clear when other groups are substituted: "There are, needless to say, plenty of individual blacks who are wholly admirable. But taken as a whole, black culture is [redacted]. Barack Obama can pretty it up all he wants, but it's a [redacted]." Or maybe this: "There are, needless to say, plenty of individual Jews who are wholly admirable. But taken as a whole, Jewish culture is [redacted]. The late Irving Howe can pretty it up all he wants, but it's a [redacted]."

If his Wikipedia entry is to be believed, Kevin Drum grew up in California, the same enlightened California that during his childhood and early adulthood gave our nation Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and the tax-revolt politics of Howard Jarvis. More recently, California voters amended the state Constitution to outlaw gay marriage. I grew up in Texas, which gave our nation champions of the New Deal and civil rights like Maury Maverick, Ralph Yarborough, Lyndon Johnson, Henry Gonzalez, Barbara Jordan, Lloyd Doggett and Sarah Weddington, who argued Roe v. Wade. Texas is less progressive than it once was and California is less conservative than it once was, but someone from the land of Nixon and Reagan should think twice about lecturing other parts of the country. Nor are other regions bastions of political virtue. The last two governors of Illinois are in prison or on the way there, the biggest political scandal of the moment involves mayors and rabbis in New Jersey, and the world economy was recently wrecked thanks in large part to certain investment banks and hedge funds headquartered not in Mississippi but in Manhattan.

In her Washington Post essay, Kathleen Parker writes: "Hefty majorities in the Northeast, the Midwest and the West believe Obama was born in the United States. But in the land of cotton, where old times are not by God forgotten" -- evidently this is intended to be a strained joke -- "only 47 percent believe Obama was born in America and 30 percent aren't sure. Southern Republicans, it seems, have seceded from sanity." Kevin Drum thinks that Parker is too kind and that white Southerners as a group should be thought of as having "seceded from sanity."

Oh, those dumb white Southerners! No other group in American society could possibly believe in preposterous conspiracy theories. Well, maybe one other group, the most reliably Democratic demographic in the whole U.S. electorate. A 2005 study by RAND and Oregon State University showed that a majority of blacks believed that a cure for AIDS was being withheld from the poor; that nearly half believed that AIDS was man-made, with a quarter believing that it was created in a U.S. government laboratory and 12 percent naming the CIA as its source. Black paranoia about AIDS is understandable, given the Tuskegee experiments. Even so, the theory that AIDS was created by the CIA to commit genocide against black people is wackier than the craziest Birther conspiracy theories. Would Kathleen Parker write, or the Washington Post publish, a column arguing that black Democrats "have seceded from sanity"? Would Kevin Drum applaud Parker's insult and extend to it to all African-Americans?

When liberal pundits are not arguing that white conservatives are insane, they are explaining conservatism in the patronizing spirit of Lipset and the '60s liberals as the result, not of ideology or theology, but of the irrational resentment of the "angry white male." But what about the angry white female? If white men in the South and elsewhere who do not vote for the Democrats are by definition hate-filled racists upset by social progress, then the same must be true of white women who vote the same way.

By this test, it appears that there are a lot of angry white women and that they have been angry for decades. In 2008 white women preferred John McCain to Barack Obama by 53-47 (compare white men, 57-41). They backed George W. Bush in 2004 by 55-44 percent and in 2000 by a narrow 49-48 percent. A majority of white women in 1996 split their votes among Dole (43) and Perot (8), giving Clinton only a minority of their vote at 48 percent. In 1992 white women were even more anti-Clinton, giving Bush (41 percent) and Perot (18 percent) in combination a majority. White women gave the first Bush 56 percent of their vote in 1988, and they gave Reagan 62 percent in 1984 and 52 percent in 1980. They preferred Ford to Carter, 52-36. I could go on, but you get the picture. Clearly, to judge from their unwillingness to support Democratic presidential candidates since the 1960s, most white women, like most white men, are evil, hate-filled racist monsters.

Curiously, the progressive punditariat, so voluble about "angry white men," is silent about the decades-old Republican bias of white women. Even more curious is the paradox that liberals routinely denounce white Southern Protestants for holding the very social views that are held by majorities or near-majorities of blacks and Latinos who form the electoral base of the Democratic Party.

Consider gay rights. According to a Gallup poll in December 2008, only 31 percent of black Democrats consider homosexuality morally acceptable, compared to 61 percent of non-black Democrats. The proportion of black Democrats who think that homosexuality is immoral is identical to the proportion of all Republicans who think so. The double standard of the white liberal left was evident, when California voters narrowly passed an amendment banning gay marriage. Here is the AP: "California's black and Latino voters, who turned out in droves for Barack Obama, also provided key support in favor of the state's same-sex marriage ban. Seven in 10 black voters backed a successful ballot measure to overturn the California Supreme Court's May decision allowing same-sex marriage, according to exit polls for the Associated Press. More than half of Latino voters supported Proposition 8, while whites were split." There were lots of news stories about pro-gay-rights liberals denouncing the Mormon Church for its role in the campaign. Where were the liberals angrily denouncing black and Latino voters opposed to gay marriage?

Latinos, like blacks, are far more likely than whites to oppose abortion. According to a 2007 Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life and the Pew Hispanic Center, nearly half of second-generation Latinos think that abortion should be illegal, while 65 percent of first-generation Latinos think it should be outlawed. Indeed, the overall level of Latino opposition to abortion, 57 percent, is higher than that of any other group. Luis Lugo, director of the Pew Forum, described Latino immigrants as being out of the mainstream, saying that second-generation Latinos (the more "liberal" cohort that is split nearly 50-50!) are "much, much closer to mainstream American values ... in stark contrast to the first generation who are much more conservative on this issue." Imagine the uproar if Rush Limbaugh or Patrick Buchanan said that Latino immigrants are far from "mainstream American values."

To read progressive pundits, you'd think that illegal immigration would not be controversial, were it not for hate-filled Southern rednecks. But according to a 2006 Pew poll, "Both whites (55 percent) and blacks (54 percent) are more likely than Hispanics (29 percent) to see immigrants as a burden." In Barack Obama's Chicago, according to Pew in 2006, "there is a widespread perception among African Americans that immigrant workers are damaging local jobs prospects. Fully 41 percent of African Americans say they or a family member has lost a job, or not gotten a job, because an employer hired an illegal immigrant instead." A Gallup poll in December 2008 revealed that 47 percent of black Americans thought that illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in the U.S., while exactly the same percentage, 47 percent, thought that illegal immigrants should be arrested and deported.

Blacks and Latinos, it appears, are allowed to hold conventionally conservative social views about gay rights, abortion and (in the case of blacks) immigration without being mocked and denounced by elite white liberals in the pages of the Washington Post and Mother Jones, as long as they vote for the Democratic Party on the basis of other issues. This strategic logic should lead liberals to seek out and welcome the vote of white social conservatives in the South and elsewhere, as long as they vote for Democrats for reasons other than the social issues. Indeed, socially conservative white voters helped to create and to maintain the new Democratic majority in Congress. But many liberals, it would appear, would rather have a smaller Democratic Party than one that includes more white Southerners with typically "black" or "Latino" views about sex and reproduction.

Here's how I see it. Liberals should respect and promote the interests of working Americans of all races and regions, including those who despise liberals. They are erring neighbors to be won over, not cretins to be mocked.

The majority of Southerners, white and black, including the black Southern diaspora in other regions of the country, are victims of the South's historic caste and class system, just as many Latino immigrants come from families and regions oppressed by Latin American oligarchies. Needless to say, Southern blacks suffered far more from slavery, segregation and the inequality that has persisted even after the abolition of the formal caste system. But Southern whites reduced to debt peonage after the Civil War, and the half of the white Southern electorate that effectively was disfranchised by the Southern elite in the South between the 1900s and the 1960s, were victims of the oligarchs as well. It is only to be expected that people, black and white, who have been deprived of adequate education will be more likely than educated people to believe in nonsense like Birther conspiracy theories and AIDS conspiracy theories. And it is only to be expected that people, black and white, who have been frozen out of politics by oligarchic elites will turn to flamboyant populist tribunes as their leaders, including theatrical preachers like Pat Robertson and Jeremiah Wright, Al Sharpton and Jerry Falwell.

The traditional liberal solution to such alienation is economic reform, education and political empowerment. But reform is difficult and expensive. And it is much less fun than caricaturing entire ethnic or regional groups, particularly those whose members tend to have less money, less education and less power than those who lampoon them.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; bigotry; birthers; certifigate; dixie; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; kevindrum; moralabsolutes; obamanoncitizenissue; prolife; racism; south
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1 posted on 08/16/2009 12:20:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seceding from sanity? That would imply they were sane to begin with.


2 posted on 08/16/2009 12:21:26 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That gal from Alaska is such a quintessentially male Southerner!/sarc


3 posted on 08/16/2009 12:23:22 PM PDT by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They keep poking that d****d bony finger in our chests and they’re going to EXPERIENCE some big-time push back. This president and his minions are at all out war with true Americans.


4 posted on 08/16/2009 12:24:14 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I was watching a TV news show back before the election ... the libtards were on saying that 2008 was the election they thought they had finished off the bubba vote. Rude and crude they were -- They were so happy that the white guys would not be able to determine the election outcome.

I have a news flash for them ... we're baaaaack.

5 posted on 08/16/2009 12:24:29 PM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid...)
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To: brushcop
Record and play this back, LOUDLY at our protest and demonstrations!...

6 posted on 08/16/2009 12:26:26 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Kathleen Parker writes: "Hefty majorities in the Northeast, the Midwest and the West believe Obama was born in the United States. But in the land of cotton, where old times are not by God forgotten"...

parker is a (useless) tool of the left. Who cares what she scribbles?
7 posted on 08/16/2009 12:30:49 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The South has been the graveyard of the Democratic Party's dreams since the liberals and socialists took over the party. Continuing to alienate southerners with elitist, arrogant attitudes is their biggest weakness.
8 posted on 08/16/2009 12:31:35 PM PDT by dog breath
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The Left hates White people who work hard and pay the taxes for their stupid Socialist programs. I guess that is insane.


9 posted on 08/16/2009 12:33:38 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: SolidWood

“That gal from Alaska is such a quintessentially male Southerner!/sarc”

I think they use the term “Southerner” as code for people we’d just think of as “regular people” - people they think of as The Other or something. I don’t know all her (Palin) political positions YET (although, now that she’s out of McCain’s shadow, we should be finding out as time goes on), but she most definitely is a “regular person” in outlook on lots of things. Something missing entirely from the Beltway and something desperately needed on the national stage.

Something desperately needed in charge of the GOP.

Reagan - despite being a former movie star - was such a “regular person” too.


10 posted on 08/16/2009 12:38:56 PM PDT by Favor Center
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sure. But no political party is going to get quite as crazy or as stupid as individual bloggers do. At least candidates and party machines aren’t going to say the kinds of things in public that Internet moonbats do.


11 posted on 08/16/2009 12:40:20 PM PDT by x
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whatever Republicans become is completely up to them. If they keep going like they have over the last 8 years, the article may be somewhat correct. If they choose to be more like Reagan, especially in this day and age, then they can come out on top.

I look at it this way:

We’ll have to edure whatever we get right now anyway because elections do have concequences. Many were fed up with RINOs and having to hold their nose in the voting booth so they stayed home or voted for someone else. While RINOs probably would not be pushing socialized medicine down our throats, it would have been some other form of big government dressed up in free market clothes that would come back to rape us. They just don’t get that we’d rather be left alone.

I will not vote RINO now or ever again. Come what may, we the people can sort it out and we will everntually get what we want.


12 posted on 08/16/2009 12:41:45 PM PDT by dajeeps
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The left or Communists hate Americans is the way I read it!


13 posted on 08/16/2009 12:46:24 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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Kevin Drum, (born October 19, 1958) is an American political blogger and columnist. He was born in Long Beach, California and now lives in Irvine, California.

As for the 2003 Iraq War, he was originally in favor of the American led war but immediately before the attack he came out in opposition to it. He said, "Before the war started I switched to opposition on practical grounds (i.e., that George W. Bush's approach was incapable of accomplishing the goals it was meant to accomplish). Since then, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that, in fact, I should have opposed it all along on philosophical grounds: namely that it was a fundamentally flawed concept and had no chance of working even if it had been competently executed."


******


Stop Sweating Social Security -- the End Is Not Near

By Kevin Drum, Kevin Drum is a writer for the Washington Monthly.
December 29, 2004

benefits will continue to be paid forever. They won't be as generous as we'd like, but they'll still be higher than they are today.

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AND he likes cats.

14 posted on 08/16/2009 12:48:13 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: screaminsunshine
No...The Left hates White people who work hard and pay the taxes ....

The left just makes it a race thing...

How many timed does a black Conservative get told by the left their not really "black"

How many White lib do you know that like to say or think about themselves and other on the left their really "black" at heart

15 posted on 08/16/2009 12:53:56 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Obama plans to fix America like he fixed his dog)
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To: dog breath
We-uns here in the South don't cotton much to them liberal insults, especially from a Yankee.

Our boys is going to have to get together and vote them there liberal-types out of office.

Low taxes, less government, strong defense, more military spending, a 600-ship navy, a missile defense, more weapons, more freedom, no abortions, more pro-family legislation, prayer in schools, less transfer payments -- these here are things I support.

Guess that makes me a Southerner. And I guess Mr. Drum would not view me as one of the “individual Southern whites who are wholly admirable.” Now that is something I cotton to.

16 posted on 08/16/2009 1:03:45 PM PDT by Memphis Moe
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To: Memphis Moe

great post


17 posted on 08/16/2009 1:07:03 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman -- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; wardaddy; KLT; montesquiue; Downsouth55; Michael Knight; ejonesie22; bkwells; ...

Mississippi ping


18 posted on 08/16/2009 1:09:54 PM PDT by WKB (From "Handout" to "Bailout")
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they are trying to start a civil war. period. using class warfare, and racial tension which they will ratchet up as much as possible. they want a racial war and a class war since those things would give them an advantage to say “see...we told you white people are all racists and that everyone should be completely equal socially, economically and politically, it’s the only way to fix this.”


19 posted on 08/16/2009 1:12:24 PM PDT by madamemayhem (i don't like repeat offenders, i like dead offenders.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; stainlessbanner; puroresu; BnBlFlag; stand watie
The left is crazy to insult white Southerners as a group

Bullshite. It goes on here daily from preening yankees and a few angry black freepers

20 posted on 08/16/2009 1:15:25 PM PDT by wardaddy (Aint it hard when you discover that He really wasnt where its at ....Bro.)
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