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RUSH: A Duke Professor Explains WHAT THE HEALTH CARE BILL ACTUALLY SAYS
www.rushlimbaugh.com ^ | Wednesday, August 12, 2009 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 08/13/2009 1:33:23 AM PDT by Yosemitest



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; affordablehealth; agenda; bhohealthcare; communism; death; democrat; democrats; fascism; geezercare; health; healthcarebill; healthchoicesact; healthcontrol; hr3200; johndavidlewis; killgranny; killingoldpeople; killthebill; marxism; medicaid; medicare; nationalsocialist; obama; obamacare; rationing; readthebill; rush; socialism; socializedmedicine
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To: Osage Orange
I've bigger foes to fight against...than you. And you do also.....

True enough and Freepers are nothing if not opinionated. I have no intentions of flogging a dead horse, but just what is the single largest problem conservatives face right now, or at any time for that matter? An out of control feral government? There's no question the federales have overstepped their constitutional limitations. However, that in and of itself is NOT the problem. It's what they have done as they overreached that is the problem. Primarily social(ist) engineering and social(ist) programs. The largest of which coincidentally is Medicare. Medicaid is running a close second and Social Security a distant third. These programs ARE the problem. Do we allow our masters in DC to continue placing bandaids on a gaping wound???

And you're right, I do rag on Freepers from time to time, but my brother and I still get into heated arguments occasionally also. And we're NOT spring chickens.

And good luck to you and yours.

41 posted on 08/13/2009 1:42:16 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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To: Yosemitest

Great post! I copied them, will post them all over the internet. I hope others do the same.


42 posted on 08/13/2009 1:48:03 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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To: PhilCollins
The federal government shouldn’t be involved in healthcare, since that would violate the 10th Amendment.

Just so, and would I be presumptious in assuming that to include Medicare?

Each state legislature should pass a law that would limit the amount that a person may sue, in malpractice lawsuits. If that happens, health insurance premiums, for patients, would decrease, and malpractice insurance premiums, for doctors, would decrease.

All of which I agree with. The individual states could do cradle to grave if they choose to, and some have essentially done that. It hasn't worked out so well from most accounts. Of course the lawyers are not going to do anything that would cut into their take. The situation I noted from reading another article on the subject is that there is something here called the American Law(?) that allows ANYONE to bring suit against anybody for just about anything. And the defendants always must pay for their own defense regardless of the merits OR the outcome of the suit. Even THAT wouldn't be nearly the problem it is were it not for the poor's ability to access free legal services from a plethora of sources.

43 posted on 08/13/2009 1:59:46 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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To: ForGod'sSake

We must get the Federal Government out of it 100%. The answer is...there is no government solution. Obama will lead us to the Cuban model. Everything is free but there isn’t any.


44 posted on 08/13/2009 2:06:57 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: DustyMoment

“Woo HOO!! Go Gov. Goodhair!!”

Perry seems to be moving in the right direction on some things, I hope he keeps going.


45 posted on 08/13/2009 2:14:14 PM PDT by AuntB (Tired of D & R globalist power brokers? How 'bout HEARTLAND AMERICA PARTY? It's a state of mind!)
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To: ForGod'sSake
Many times in my years....I've thought, "Dagnabit, YOU should be doing more..because I am working my tail off!!"

When I find that everyone "runs" at different speeds....

Yeah, your points are totally noted. I actually think that SSI, and MediCare with THE Feds in "control" of it...have bankrupt the Government..among hundreds of other things...

And now THEY are lashing out....because THEY have screwed it up...but will NEVER admit it.

I just think there are way more FReepers out here...that totally get it. And it does no good to harp on them.....

Peace, Love, and Bobby Sherman...........

46 posted on 08/13/2009 2:25:52 PM PDT by Osage Orange (“A community organizer can’t bitch when communities organize.....” - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Osage Orange
And it does no good to harp on them.....

Exactly. As conservatives it is fair to assume most of us want to cut most of the federal government. Medicare, Medicaid, Social security, Welfare... the works. No sense in attacking us just because we don't list the programs we would like to see cut in every post.
47 posted on 08/13/2009 2:32:19 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: ForGod'sSake
Behind the scenes this bill is scary. I have been reading and listening to Betsy McCaughey. What stands out about her is that the left actually attacks her and responds to her comments. In my mind that means she is on to something and they want to shut her up.... a lot like Palin.

Her most alarming warning is that this Bill is the most significant transfer of power from the legislative branch to the Executive Branch in US History. And now I read in this post that citizens will have no recourse in the Judicial Branch.

Health Care "Reform" is Obama's Enabling Act.

48 posted on 08/13/2009 2:46:29 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (Proud Member of the DHS radical list since Jan 20, 2009)
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To: ForGod'sSake

“Based on the lack of response to your post it doesn’t look like even here on FR there are many who want to take a look behind the curtain.”

I think that Freepers are fired up just like alot of other people across the country. The seemingly small response should not be taken as contradictory to their passion and engagement.


49 posted on 08/13/2009 2:48:29 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Yosemitest

Thank you very much for posting this.
I’ve been trying to find a source that deciphers the plan (with out hyperbole or sarcasm).

Thank you Dr Lewis.


50 posted on 08/13/2009 2:49:12 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: ForGod'sSake; wastoute
Thanks for the ping and the reference to wastoute's excellent post as well. My thoughts exactly, and Hubby and I are on it.

"Come and take them."

51 posted on 08/13/2009 2:53:30 PM PDT by TheOldLady (zer0 the granny killer)
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To: ForGod'sSake
"Based on the lack of response to your post it doesn't look like even here on FR there are many who want to take a look behind the curtain."

LISTEN you arrogant, condescending little prick, DO NOT presume to judge who gets it and who doesn't based on replies to a thread.

I've been fighting the beast for over 20 years. I've been arrested and gone to jail for my beliefs. WHAT THE F**k have you done for FREEDOM, besides pound your f&&&ing keyboard from your momma's basement????

Take me OFF your f'ing ping list. I don't need some snot nosed little puss like you contacting me further.

52 posted on 08/13/2009 2:55:27 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER (NRA member))
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To: ForGod'sSake

I wouldn’t draw that conclusion based on response to a thread. There is a lot going on and this is just one thread. Thanks for the ping, but your conclusion about reluctance to look behind the curtain is flawed.


53 posted on 08/13/2009 3:02:44 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: screaminsunshine
We must get the Federal Government out of it 100%. The answer is...there is no government solution.

Pretty much the way I see it. It's the same MO the left has used since, well, forever I suppose. Create a strawman problem, initiate an unconstitutional fix, allow it to grow to unsustainable levels, thereby requiring the need for another unconstitutional fix; rinse and repeat.

54 posted on 08/13/2009 3:18:28 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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To: Osage Orange

You’re very gracious. Thank you.


55 posted on 08/13/2009 3:19:14 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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To: 11th Commandment
Health Care "Reform" is Obama's Enabling Act.

Would seem. The tentacles from this beast of a program reach into just about everything we can or will be involved in for the rest of our natural lives. I'm sure it would include low flush toilets were they not already mandated by the feral government.

56 posted on 08/13/2009 3:23:00 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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To: ForGod'sSake
I heard about this on Rush Limbaugh yesterday and didn't think anything else needed to be added...

Cheers!

57 posted on 08/13/2009 3:24:19 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ForGod'sSake
I heard about this on Rush Limbaugh yesterday and didn't think anything else needed to be added...

Cheers!

58 posted on 08/13/2009 3:24:31 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Yosemitest

Thanks Rush. You da man!


59 posted on 08/13/2009 3:27:57 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Ask His forgiveness. Don't wait.)
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To: oneamericanvoice
The seemingly small response should not be taken as contradictory to their passion and engagement.

Point taken. I guess maybe my frustration goes back a number of years on FR when this same subject was broached and received a collective yawn at best. I mean, there's a galactically large Medicare elephant sitting in the middle of the room that WILL bankrupt this country. I'll admit I could be overly sensitive about it, but I just wonder, where's the outrage?

60 posted on 08/13/2009 3:31:52 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST. Have I missed anything?)
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