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The 'Birthers' have a point
Chicago Now ^ | 8/11/09 | Dennis Byrne

Posted on 08/11/2009 10:00:32 AM PDT by pissant

So how are we supposed to know that a candidate for U.S. president meets all the qualifications laid out by the Constitution?

Do we leave it in the hands of the verbal free-for-all that passes as a debate over whether President Barack Obama actually was born in America? Or will Congress create an official path for presidential and congressional candidates to prove their qualifications?

For all the sneering denunciations heaped on the "birthers" -- those who feel compelled to prove that Obama wasn't born in the United States and thus is not eligible to be president -- no one, it seems, has touched on a critically important question: How do we know if someone, anyone is qualified: Is the candidate at least 35 years old, a resident in the U.S. for 14 years and a natural-born citizen?

Who officially confirms that a member of the House of Representatives is at least 25 years old, has been a citizen for seven years and lives in the state from which he is elected? Or that a Senate candidate is at least a 30-year-old, nine-year citizen and lives in the state he represents?

None of the wiseacres who have been laying it on the birthers seems interested in the question, choosing instead to use the debate as another opportunity to jeer and taunt the "wing nuts," "Obama haters," "right-wing zealots" and various species of alleged goofballs who have raised the question about the president.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aaobamafascism; article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; larrysinclairslover; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue
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Damn right we got a point, and that is exactly why this issue won't go away until we yank the birth documents from Obama's cold marxist fingers.
1 posted on 08/11/2009 10:00:33 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Don’t forget all the passports and scholarships that he applied for. Applying for a foreign scholarship denounces his American citizenship if he ever had one.


2 posted on 08/11/2009 10:02:45 AM PDT by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: jcsjcm

And that is a big IF


3 posted on 08/11/2009 10:03:53 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant; LucyT

Ping!


4 posted on 08/11/2009 10:06:03 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: pissant

OK, so what happens if Mr. Obama is NOT an American citizen?

Does Biden become president?

Or is the entire election invalidated?

Does that mean Mrs. Pelosi becomes president?

If so, I see no benefit in that scenario.

You know, it’s like choosing between getting burned at the stake or having one’s head chopped off.


5 posted on 08/11/2009 10:06:11 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: pissant

Bookmark


6 posted on 08/11/2009 10:07:13 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: RexBeach

My learned opinion is that Miss Pelosi would be a temp president and a new election would be necessary. Regardless, having a fraud in office is far worse than any consequences associated with removing the fraud.


7 posted on 08/11/2009 10:07:54 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Oh, the inner-cities would explode with riots. Just imagine. Then everyone who has a weapon for self defense with thank God they obtained one along with appropriate amounts of ammunition.


8 posted on 08/11/2009 10:09:46 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is a trojan horse designed to infiltrate and bring down Western civilization.)
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To: RexBeach
If so, I see no benefit in that scenario.

There is always a benefit in seeing that the Constitution is upheld and maintained.

9 posted on 08/11/2009 10:09:49 AM PDT by kevkrom (Obama: Stuck on "Stupidly")
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To: pissant

I believe we voted for electors who cast separate votes for certain candidates for two separate offices. It would be President Joe.


10 posted on 08/11/2009 10:11:29 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: pissant
My learned opinion is that Miss Pelosi would be a temp president and a new election would be necessary.

As far as I can tell, it would be handled like any other vacancy of the office of President, and Biden (who was legitimately and separately from Obama elected Vice-President by the Electoral College) would become President, leaving the Vice-Presidency vacant until a replacement can be named and confirmed by the Senate.

11 posted on 08/11/2009 10:12:02 AM PDT by kevkrom (Obama: Stuck on "Stupidly")
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I read the comments under this guy’s commentary. What a bunch of fruitcake loons. “It was Bush/Cheney’s fault folks.” Well the comments were about that bad.

The writer simply stated there should be a mechanism for verifying candidates meet the requirements. That’s viewed rather dimly in some quarters.

We could have a person who wished to all but destroy our nation (and may in fact have someone like that right now), and these loons would think it most important that he had fooled the people in the first place, and we couldn’t remove them after the election.

We sure have some dim bulbs in this nation.


12 posted on 08/11/2009 10:12:47 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Our Founding Fathers were the first birthers: See Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: kevkrom

Because Biden was paired with Obama, I think it voids the election. The electoral college electors would have been fraudulently selected and therefore have no legal ability to choose the prez and VP.


13 posted on 08/11/2009 10:16:02 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Genoa

The electors were chosen during a fraudulent election. That tells me they have no say and would need to be voided.


14 posted on 08/11/2009 10:17:10 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: kevkrom

Yes, I agree.

No way, if true, this could be kept a secret all of these years. It would require the silence of far too many people.

As we say in Washington, “if two people know something, it’s not a secret.”


15 posted on 08/11/2009 10:17:44 AM PDT by RexBeach
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NO...it would be Biden. He was elected as part of the executive ticket. Biden would than appoint a new VP subject to approval by Congress.


16 posted on 08/11/2009 10:18:29 AM PDT by kjo
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To: AbeKrieger

God bless the founders for writing the 2nd Amendment.


17 posted on 08/11/2009 10:19:05 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: kjo

If Obama is ineligible, then his electors have no standing.


18 posted on 08/11/2009 10:19:38 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
That is a good point.

And if Obama was a good leader he would do everything he could to relieve the doubts millions of his constituents have on the matter.

19 posted on 08/11/2009 10:20:39 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: pissant

“electors . . . no say and would need to be voided.”

Gosh, pissant, do you think that either this Congress or this Supreme Court would go there?


20 posted on 08/11/2009 10:21:04 AM PDT by Genoa
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