Posted on 08/09/2009 3:25:12 AM PDT by South40
FRESNO, Calif. (AP) -- The California Highway Patrol says a police chase in Dinuba has ended with seven people dead, including four children.
The patrol says Dinuba police were trying to stop a car Saturday afternoon for a traffic infraction.
Patrol Sgt. Jon Baker says the driver went through a stop sign during the pursuit and collided with a pickup truck.
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A very sad case.But why did the guy run in the first place? I didn't click on the link so I don't know if this question was answered.If the original reason was a minor violation then why not take the $50 ticket instead of running off at 80 mph? Did the guy have drugs in the trunk? Or a dead body? Was the original reason for the stop because the cop ran the plate and found that the car was stolen...or the owner had a murder warrant out on him?
If word gets out that all you have to do to avoid being pulled over is to *refuse* to pull over when you're "lit up" can you imagine the field day that crooks....really *serious* crooks (rapists,murderers,etc) would have?
How does chasing criminals at high speeds through streets crowded with innocent motorists and bystanders either "serve" or "protect" them? The guy(s) being chased showed only as little concern or regard for innocent lives as did the cops involved in the chase.
The difference is, the cops are supposed to care. They are paid by those innocents to care. To behave without due regard for that fact is an abject abrogation of their sworn duty.
What is the worse outcome, in your inobvious wisdom: a traffic violator gets away scot free, or innocent people are killed making sure they don't get away?
Get real, meatface.
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Where I lived in America everybody I knew drove around with the kids in the back of the truck.
People don’t do that anymore?
And now they can add at least five zeros to that number once the law suits are settled.
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People don’t do that anymore?
Mexican day laborers even here in NY and when I was out west in parts of AZ, you would see a whole family of Navajos, sitting up against the back of the cab to keep the wind from blowing off those bowled out cowboy hats
My eldest son is a police Lt. He has done everything from traffic thru knocking down doors for drugs. I disagree with him about many things. But," you can take it to the bank" that cops care.
Your "bleeding heart" is ill-placed. Few people are chased for traffic violations, alone. They are chased because they decided to FLEE!
I do not want the bad guys to win! I do not wish to see innocent people killed or maimed, but the alternative is "chaos". The people operating "without due regard" are the ones BEING CHASED!
Go hit your bong again. It's time to "wake and bake"! My face is just fine!!!
After generations of kids rode in the back of pickups, it’s now against the law in Texas. All passengers in a vehicle must wear seat belts, and there aren’t any in the bed of a pickup.
I take it you haven’t heard of the seatbelt laws?
It seems to me that the cops were not the ones who blew through a stop sign. Why do we always divert blame to people who DIDN’T commit the crime? I guess the guy who ran from the cops was just the victim.
Even after the safety warnings all over them not to do so?
“It will never happen to me” goes in all directions on this one only the kids heartbreakingly had no choice.
Proceed at your own peril rules apply every time you walk out the door. It is just the liberal mindset that the government is there to protect us from everything that always get people into trouble.
Granted, it breaks my heart that four young lives were needlessly lost because of the stupid actions of the best in our society/sarc but the police are in a no win situation whichever way they act.
So those of you who blame only the police can just take a powder as far as I’m concerned.
Better yet, just call them up right now and put your residence and/or business on the do not respond list just in the event you happen to need them one day and stupidly make the 911 call in shear desperation.
You know, kind of like a living will.
It apparently was worth it to the van driver. He made the decision to FLEE! It is his fault that some died along with him, not the pursuit. Your mind is warped.
As an aside, why should more value be placed on "children"? Each person has the same value to God, don't they? You sound like a Dimocrat crying "for the chil'run"...
The bleeding heart liberals are always trying to coddle the criminals. If we made it possible to avoid a ticket just by mashing the gas, I’d hate to think how many people would be killed. This guy blew through a stop sign to avoid a ticket. That would happening a lot more often.
Just as long as it is a GM car and the service was activated. There are only about 30 other car manufacturers represented on the highways today.
Is it ok for a cop to open fire on a crowded sidewalk?
Please answer that.
If you won’t answer that you may as well end the conversation now.
Answer that and then we can discuss how it relates. And if you can’t see how it relates, I would suggest it is not my mind that is warped here.
At a person who is indiscriminately shooting people on that sane sidewalk?
Damned right Einstien. Next outburst please?
Hmmm. When I left the States, seatbelts had just become mandatory in my home state. I don’t recall there every having been a lot of discussion about people riding around in the back of a pickup. I come from a redneck place. We looked on riding in the back as a normal thing- not death defying or anything.
What about you? Are you ok with a cop opening fire on a crowded sidewalk when the likelihood of him hitting an innocent is pretty high?
It’s just a question. Nothing to be afraid of here.
That’s the way some here seem to see it. In my state the moment you flee you turn the situation into a felony offense. I prefer the old way just shoot the SOB and end it.
You totally ignored my point essentially nullifying yours that you asked again. Misdirection your Honor.
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