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Libertarians To Democrats: Call Off The Thugs (It Appears That Democrats Are Causing Violence
SmallGovTimes ^ | 8/7/09 | Libertarian Party

Posted on 08/09/2009 12:44:19 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

WASHINGTON - America's third largets party Friday called on Democrats to end what appears to be a budding campaign of union violence targeted at citizens who dissent with the White House at town hall meetings across the country. Libertarians oppose not only the White Houses's plan for government-run medicine, but the use of violence to achieve polirtical or social goals.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; barackobama; bho44; bhofascism; bhohealthcare; bhotyranny; democrats; healthcare; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; seiu; socializedmedicine; townhall; townhalls; unionthugs
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To: ansel12

The Libertarian Party can go to hell.


81 posted on 08/09/2009 6:29:26 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Tribune7

Dittos! Not sure why some are getting so upset. If the liberterian party can help us get rid of the marxist thug in the WH in 2012..we should welcome them. They are not big enough to have any major affect on any conservative platform..however we would do well to take some of their fiscal platforms to heart. At least they spoke out on Obama sending his goons into the streets to beat up American citizens...where is the GOP?

Ronald Reagan welcomed a coalition to beat back the democrats and so should we imho. It doesn’t mean we change our values to suit theirs..it means we win their support to stop the marxist jugernaut and hopefully win some to our side in the process.


82 posted on 08/09/2009 6:41:34 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire
Ronald Reagan welcomed a coalition to beat back the democrats and so should we

Dittos back!

83 posted on 08/09/2009 6:43:22 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: ansel12

People like you scare me every bit as much as the Obama/Pelosi/Reids do.

Just saying.


84 posted on 08/09/2009 8:14:46 AM PDT by altair (soon to be an expat-FReeper again)
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To: penelopesire
Ronald Reagan welcomed a coalition to beat back the democrats and so should we imho. It doesn’t mean we change our values to suit theirs..it means we win their support to stop the marxist jugernaut and hopefully win some to our side in the process.

Yeah. I've been mostly registered L and vote that way, but I'll vote R if circumstances warrant it, never D and never, ever RINO.

If more followed President Reagan's example and stopped throwing libertarians under the bus, who are looking for any reasonable excuse to vote Republican, the party might do better.

85 posted on 08/09/2009 8:24:42 AM PDT by altair (soon to be an expat-FReeper again)
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To: altair

I’d rather find common ground with a libertarian than a rino anyday...lol.


86 posted on 08/09/2009 8:29:47 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire; ansel12
.... If the liberterian party can help us get rid of the marxist thug in the WH in 2012..we should welcome them. They are not big enough to have any major affect on any conservative platform..however we would do well to take some of their fiscal platforms to heart. At least they spoke out on Obama sending his goons into the streets to beat up American citizens...where is the GOP? Ronald Reagan welcomed a coalition to beat back the democrats and so should we imho. It doesn’t mean we change our values to suit theirs..it means we win their support to stop the marxist jugernaut and hopefully win some to our side in the process.....

Yours is a well thought out response to someone who is completely irrational on the subject of Libertarians. I've watched ansel12 hijack thread after thread posting exactly the same crap about Libertarians, over and over again -- so much so that it could have been pre-programmed by a computer. It's his "shtick" -- being a one-trick, anti-libertarian pony. He's got nothing else relevant to say.

If the Republican Party would have issued that press release, the general public would have written off the accusations as "partisan politics". But when the Libertarians point the finger, it carries more weight because they don't tend to do that kind of thing.

That the Libertarians stood up to Obama is to be commended, not derided. As you stated, the Libertarian Party is no real numerical threat to the Republican Party. The only part of the Libertarian platform that is appealing to the mainstream is their "small government, free citizen" message. What's sad about that is that this "small government, free citizen" message used to be the Republican message, but somewhere along the way, we lost that message in favor of a more statist model.

87 posted on 08/09/2009 9:30:10 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Thanks for your reply. Obama and his marxist allies in the press really fear a return to the Reagan Coalition and you have to wonder about folks that post stuff like ansel12 just did. They want to sow seeds of division among the old Reagan coalition partners. I’ve noticed them doing the same thing on other conservative sites. Thanks for confirming those suspicions about this particular poster.


88 posted on 08/09/2009 9:45:30 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: altair

If you afraid of conservatives then you are at the wrong place. Just saying.


89 posted on 08/09/2009 11:03:42 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: penelopesire

The libertarian party is a “third party” of it’s own and I post their agenda through posting their platform.

1980 was a high point for their anti-Reagan party when they won 921,128 votes for their candidate Ed Clark in his race to keep Ronald Reagan from taking the White House.


90 posted on 08/09/2009 11:14:07 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: stephenjohnbanker
The Libertarian Party can go to hell.

Look at that party platform of theirs in post 15 and you know that many of them don't believe in hell and that at least some of them must serve the king of hell.

91 posted on 08/09/2009 11:17:10 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Tribune7

Look at post 90, they aren’t “with you” unless you voted against Ronald Reagan also.


92 posted on 08/09/2009 11:21:17 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Bokababe
Helping people learn the actual goals of the libertarian party by posting the radical leftism in their platform is a service to conservatism.

They are the most proabortion party in existence for example, that means something to conservative voters.

1.4 Abortion

Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.

93 posted on 08/09/2009 11:29:06 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
1980 was a high point for their anti-Reagan party when they won 921,128 votes for their candidate Ed Clark in his race to keep Ronald Reagan from taking the White House.

So, after those libertarian voters got a look at Reagan, what happened? How many votes did the libertarian candidate get in 1984? :-)

94 posted on 08/09/2009 12:32:49 PM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: ansel12
"Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration."

Ah, yes -- let's take focus off the fact that the Libertarians just dealt Obama a blow by stating that "Obama's thugs have no right to intimidate citizens who want to protest his policies", by digging up the Libertarian "abortion stance" -- which has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.

No one here is suggesting that anyone join the Libertarian Party. I could care less if Libertarians advocate "wearing no socks every other Tuesday" -- they just righteously kicked the O in the nuts for his behavior toward all of us. That gets them a star in my book for today -- so save your useless hot air for someone who doesn't see through you!

95 posted on 08/09/2009 12:34:09 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
they just righteously kicked the O in the nuts for his behavior toward all of us. That gets them a star in my book for today

Well said Bokababe!!

96 posted on 08/09/2009 12:41:03 PM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: Tribune7

You mean you want to know how many votes the candidate of one of the parties trying to prevent President Reagan from being reelected got.


97 posted on 08/09/2009 12:44:47 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

It’s too bad you don’t go after the marxists taking over our country with the same kind of zeal. It is also too bad that you don’t see that many libertarians can be brought into a coalition to stop marxism.


98 posted on 08/09/2009 12:48:18 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Bokababe
Ah, yes -- let's take focus off the fact that the Libertarians just dealt Obama a blow by stating that "Obama's thugs have no right to intimidate citizens who want to protest his policies", by digging up the Libertarian "abortion stance" -- which has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.

If you want to try and promote a pro unlimited abortion, pro unlimited immigration, pro unlimited homosexuality in the military, pro gay marriage etc party on a conservative web site, you can't really expect to keep the threads only focused on the positive parts of their campaign efforts can you?

99 posted on 08/09/2009 12:50:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
There were a whole lot of people (700,000) who were attracted enough to the Libertarian platform to vote for it in 1980 that didn't vote for it in 1984.

I'm sure there was some reason for it.

And I want as many of those voters as I can get even if it's just because they don't want 0 to have a second term.

100 posted on 08/09/2009 12:52:20 PM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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