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America's Best College (Forbes ranks West Point #1)
Forbes ^ | 5 August 3009 | Hana R. Alberts

Posted on 08/07/2009 2:00:43 PM PDT by chargers fan

College senior Raymond Vetter gets up at dawn to fit in a run or a workout. Then, hair shorn neatly and pants pressed, he marches into breakfast, where he sits in an assigned seat. After six hours of instruction in such subjects as Japanese literature and systems engineering, two hours of intramural sports and another family-style meal with underclassmen, Vetter rushes to return to his room by the 11:30 p.m. curfew.

Most college students, we think, do not march to meals. A goodly number of them drink into the wee hours, duck morning classes and fail to hit the gym with any regularity. But Vetter, 21, is a cadet at the U.S. Military Academy in West Point, N.Y., where college life is a bit different.

According to students, alumni, faculty and higher education experts, the undergraduate experience at West Point and the other service academies is defined by an intense work ethic and a drive to succeed on all fronts. "We face challenges and obstacles that not every college student has to face, but we are able to be competitive in all the different areas, from sports to academics," Vetter says.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: army; college; highereducation; usma; westpoint
Nice to see an academy do so well.
1 posted on 08/07/2009 2:00:44 PM PDT by chargers fan
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To: chargers fan
Surprise, surprise. Now that his eminence, and not George Bush, is President, service academies are a cool place again. For eight years we were treated to story after story about how the service academies were either proselytizing Christianity, or they were hotbeds of date-rape, or they were falling well short in preparing young officer for fighting a more intellectually challenging kind of war - whatever that is.

Now, as if by some magical proclamation or conversion, West Point is the best college in the country. Color me nauseous.

2 posted on 08/07/2009 2:07:18 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: chargers fan

Claremont McKenna College, #27 (my alma mater)


3 posted on 08/07/2009 2:07:20 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (It's the spending, stupid!)
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To: OldDeckHand

West Point has usually done well in the rankings throughout the years. This is just the first time it was no. 1 recently which is why I posted it.


4 posted on 08/07/2009 2:10:16 PM PDT by chargers fan (Beat Navy)
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To: chargers fan

I see the Naval Academy is #30. But at least they kick their asses in football.


5 posted on 08/07/2009 2:11:42 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: chargers fan

I back these military colleges 100%.

They turn out excellent well rounded leaders.

Sadly our universities have become a place to party hearty, and get brainwashed to hate the United States and what it stands for.

Our military colleges compare quite favorably with that.

I am not a big fan of the Rhodes Scholar program. With folks like Carol Quigley teaching there (in the past), consider my support for that nonsense to be non-existent.


6 posted on 08/07/2009 2:13:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Our Founding Fathers were the first birthers: See Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: chargers fan

Long Grey Line PING!!!


7 posted on 08/07/2009 2:14:47 PM PDT by red devil 40
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To: chargers fan
(Forbes ranks West Point #1)

West Point - also known as the "VMI of the North" :0)

8 posted on 08/07/2009 2:16:08 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: chargers fan

Wow. An O-1 starts at $69k these days? That’s awesome.


9 posted on 08/07/2009 2:16:48 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: dfwgator

I’m not exactly sure of the timeline, but at some point in its history, The US Naval Academy started awarding Bachelors’ degrees in subjects other than purely engineering. The Military Academy is an engineering school.

GO NAVY... BEAT ARMY!!!
LC


10 posted on 08/07/2009 2:22:58 PM PDT by LoneConservative (PEACE... Through SUPERIOR FIREPOWER!!!)
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To: buccaneer81

That’s not strictly true.

Base pay for a brand-new O-1 is about $32000 a year. It would take a lot of housing allowance, subsistence allowance, hazardous duty pay etc. to double that.


11 posted on 08/07/2009 2:28:17 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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That’s not strictly true. Base pay for a brand-new O-1 is about $32000 a year. It would take a lot of housing allowance, subsistence allowance, hazardous duty pay etc. to double that.

That's what I thought. USAF O-1 pay starts at ~$2650 a month.

12 posted on 08/07/2009 2:31:51 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: chargers fan
You're guaranteed to have a job after graduation from West Point. I'm sure a few new Harvard grads are waiting tables or living off trusts
13 posted on 08/07/2009 2:36:05 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: chargers fan

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/military-academy-west-point/760316-move-over-hyp-west-point-1-a.html

That is a thread on this topic at a college admissions discussion forum. You should read some of the dripping hate for his ranking system there. Especially since Harvard, Yale, Princeton and other “elite” universities didn’t hog the top spots. There is a link to another thread on the same subject in there somewhere.


14 posted on 08/07/2009 2:40:55 PM PDT by ronnietherocket2
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To: buccaneer81

Many an O-1 asked where $30k of that amount went when they read this article


15 posted on 08/07/2009 3:09:10 PM PDT by chargers fan (Beat Navy)
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To: LoneConservative

The Military Academy now offers Bachelors’ in degrees other than engineering now too.


16 posted on 08/07/2009 3:10:24 PM PDT by chargers fan (Beat Navy)
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To: DoughtyOne
I am not a big fan of the Rhodes Scholar program

Cecil Rhodes, for whom the scholarship is named, was an avowed White Supremacist! Look it up!

17 posted on 08/07/2009 3:30:02 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Uncle Miltie

My oldest son and his wife of 2 weeks tomorrow are both graduates of CMC (’05 and ‘08). It’s a terrific school!
I also have a son who graduated from Boston College at #16 but my 3rd son just graduated from Duke. There’s something very wrong with the methodology if Duke is #104. Give me a break. My daughter is at UNC Chapel Hill which is #7 among publics but #1 in Basketball! haha! Sorry! couldn’t’ resist! ;-)


18 posted on 08/07/2009 3:53:27 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: luv2ski

I think it looks at things like student satisfaction and indebtedness after graduation. As a balance to USNWR, that doesn’t really take that into account.


19 posted on 08/07/2009 6:46:42 PM PDT by ronnietherocket2
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