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‘Punkin’ the Birthers: Priceless’ [pictures supposedly from forger of Kenya BC]
Washington Independent ^ | 8/6/09 | Dave Weigel

Posted on 08/06/2009 11:53:16 AM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com

It’s looking more and more like the forged “Kenyan birth certificate” released by Orly Taitz on Sunday was a prank by a supporter of President Obama. Politijab points to an anonymous blogger at FearlessBlogging, who has uploaded four photos of the original forgery and a mocking declaration:

Fine cotton business paper: $11

Inkjet printer: $35

1940 Royal Model KMM manual typewriter: $10

2 Shilling coin: $1

Pilot Varsity fountain pen: $3

Punkin’ the Birthers: Priceless


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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afterbirthers; article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; fraud; kenya; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; prank; punk; stanleyann
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

So Obama’s pals admit to forging documents. What does that say about their character?

I wonder when they’ll admit to forging the National Guard memos.


601 posted on 08/07/2009 9:11:13 AM PDT by TBP
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

This is ridiculous.

The cloth is different, and the ‘document’ is different. How stupid do they think we are?


602 posted on 08/07/2009 9:12:39 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

The bed spreads are different!

Count the threads in each band they are different.

Check the order of the colors in the bands, they are different too.

All you have to do is enlarge it in a photo editor to see that there are countless differences.

The document has numerous differences too; the spot, the folds,etc.

Don’t be so gullible!


603 posted on 08/07/2009 9:17:23 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Lundy_s Lane II

Unless Orly’s copy is completely different, then chances are it’s also a fake.

I downloaded the copy from her site when it was first posted and from every indication that I see, it comes pretty close to the ‘punkd’ one.

I looked at post #548 and you can definitely see the similarities in the seal.

I am not totally saying Orly’s copy is fake. But the evidence sure points that way.


604 posted on 08/07/2009 9:24:01 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Sibre Fan

I understand everything you’re stating perfectly, but I still have a few questions:

Weren’t there several people discussing doing this very thing on the internet (DU, DKos, etc...)? And if that’s the case, a conspiracy could be proven provided there is actual interstate commerce occurring (selling of the document, electronic transfer of the document, whatever). Is that correct based on your take of the law?

I could swear that the interstate commerce clause wasn’t mutually exclusive though (in my initial reading of the posted law/statute). I thought the mere act of doing it was enough provided that it was intended to be used as an Identifying document of some sort...


605 posted on 08/07/2009 9:35:02 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (We need to reward the people that carry the water instead of the people that drink the water!)
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To: Bigh4u2

The punk’d edition was started with one of the fakes of the original. You’re being herded to a conclusion not warranted by the exhibit in evidence. It is actually not possible at this time to know if the Orly exhibit is a fake. But Obama’s little liars platoon want mischaracterization to be the zeitgeist for this exhibit. The Aussie exhibit is a proven fake. Jury is still out on the original Orly exhibit.


606 posted on 08/07/2009 9:35:03 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: TBP

They don’t have to admit to forging the Selective Service exhibits, they’re cold hard fakes, with at least five points which prove that! Obama is a fabrication, an illusion, a fraud, and he has used fraud and deceit to achieve his position as an affirmative action hire for the highest job he could be given.


607 posted on 08/07/2009 9:38:08 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: ExpatCanuck
the rift will not heal for generations, if ever.

How many Marxist nations can you cite that have changed for the better. Hint Russia is not one of them, Putin is still in charge and so is the KGB.

608 posted on 08/07/2009 9:41:46 AM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: MHGinTN

Like I said.

I downloaded the very first copy on Saturday nite from Orly’s site.

I then compared the copy from her site from saturday to the copy that I also downloaded on sunday.

They are different.

The original has no notation in the file ‘header’ when opened with notepad.

The ‘fake copy’ does. It says ‘Ducky Adobe’.

But, the ‘original’ has what appears to be the same ‘seal’ as the fake and punk’d one that matches the animated GIF in post 548.

Like I said. I’m not saying Orly’s is ‘fake’, but from what I’ve seen so far, my ‘guess’ would be that it is.

Just don’t know.

BTW. Just as a side note, the ‘Ducky Adobe’ header shows up on the so-called ‘real’ COLB from Hawaii, and has from day one.


609 posted on 08/07/2009 9:56:06 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: itsahoot
How many Marxist nations can you cite that have changed for the better.

None of them get better until they start converting to politically democratic, and freemarket driven economic models, in my opinion. I'm not sure I get your point though. I'm not suggesting we roll over and let this become a Marxist nation. On the contrary, we need to fight to the end to prevent that. What I'm saying is that the birther controversy is a non-sequitor with many otherwise conservative Americans and it is a distraction from the genuine dangers of this administration. For so long we decried that the media was ignoring this issue, and now that the heat is on the administration for their policies, the media picks it up to shine a spotlight it. That's not a conincidence. Nor is the fact that there have been so many bogus claims about the real birth certificate - in the unlikely event that the real one ever surfaces, the whole issue will be so tainted that no credibility will be granted to it.

610 posted on 08/07/2009 10:52:59 AM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: Bigh4u2

There are similarities between the seal and the coin. But do we know the size of the coin in question and do we know the size of the paper so we can verify that they match?

You can do anything on the computer. I certainly can not make out the writing on the seal in the Orly document. Also it is not clear to me how you get an imprint in an actual document with a coin.


611 posted on 08/07/2009 11:07:04 AM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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To: Bigh4u2

Yes the seal has similarities to the coin. But that would make sense if the coin uses an official emblem of the Republic of Kenya. see http://allthingskenyan.com/currency.html

But what is the size of the coin supposedly used to emboss the paper compared to the seal in Orly’s photograph? Do we know the paper size that would have been used for the Certification in 1964? What about size of the coin?

Also how does one emboss with a coin.

I know you can fake it in Photoshop.


612 posted on 08/07/2009 11:07:05 AM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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To: Spaulding

Really! I wonder when that trip was planned? I don’t know if others see that our representatives are simply not trustworthy. Hillary, the older Alinsky acolyte, is part of a community that she dare not cross, even if she wanted to. Colin Powell, much as I didn’t like his positions, was free to disagree with his leader and his party, and often did.
We will never know the topics discussed in Kenya, but the brouhaha over the birth certificate can’t be ignored. Forget about the forensics, if there was a binder corresponding to numbering in the photo much debated and hacked, it seems unlikely that it will remain. Israel may be able to resist our brown shirts while they find trustworthy partners, but Kenya simply hasn’t the resouces.


The Clinton Africa trip was announced to the media on July 27th.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8172274.stm


613 posted on 08/07/2009 11:07:49 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Yep, the bedspreads are different and the document’s paper is different in the forged photos. I’m not holding out a lot of hope for this one, but still...let’s hope that what Orly has submitted is not a fake.

Think this will be my last post on the BC thing for a while. I’m in “wait and see” mode now.


614 posted on 08/07/2009 11:11:13 AM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

The President blew up the WTC.


615 posted on 08/07/2009 11:11:34 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: editor-surveyor

How do you address post #548?


616 posted on 08/07/2009 11:21:00 AM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Lundy_s Lane II
There's no need for debate on this one.

Try it.

Take a coin with good sharp features and place a sheet of paper over it.

Experiment with pressure, rubbing and striking with soft objects.

I tried this with a half dollar and some other large coins. It actually works pretty well. You have to be careful around the edge if the coin edge is sharp. But with a little practice you can get some pretty good results.

If a person has something resembling a press in their home (a bottle capper, garlic press or even long jawed pliers) they could probably get more consistent results.

617 posted on 08/07/2009 11:29:00 AM PDT by El Sordo
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Hush!

We’re still keeping that quiet.


618 posted on 08/07/2009 11:31:23 AM PDT by El Sordo
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

I think it’s a fake trying to discredit what Orly Taitz has found.


619 posted on 08/07/2009 11:36:34 AM PDT by JHenselmeier
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To: All

Was it determined if the typewriter was Pica or Elite? If Elite then 12 characters/inch and from that I estimate seal to be around 1.25” in diameter.

That seems like a big coin. What is the size of the alleged coin? Is there anyway to find that out?


620 posted on 08/07/2009 11:36:45 AM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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