Posted on 08/06/2009 11:53:16 AM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com
It’s looking more and more like the forged “Kenyan birth certificate” released by Orly Taitz on Sunday was a prank by a supporter of President Obama. Politijab points to an anonymous blogger at FearlessBlogging, who has uploaded four photos of the original forgery and a mocking declaration:
Fine cotton business paper: $11Inkjet printer: $35
1940 Royal Model KMM manual typewriter: $10
2 Shilling coin: $1
Pilot Varsity fountain pen: $3
Punkin’ the Birthers: Priceless
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonindependent.com ...
So Obama’s pals admit to forging documents. What does that say about their character?
I wonder when they’ll admit to forging the National Guard memos.
This is ridiculous.
The cloth is different, and the ‘document’ is different. How stupid do they think we are?
The bed spreads are different!
Count the threads in each band they are different.
Check the order of the colors in the bands, they are different too.
All you have to do is enlarge it in a photo editor to see that there are countless differences.
The document has numerous differences too; the spot, the folds,etc.
Don’t be so gullible!
Unless Orly’s copy is completely different, then chances are it’s also a fake.
I downloaded the copy from her site when it was first posted and from every indication that I see, it comes pretty close to the ‘punkd’ one.
I looked at post #548 and you can definitely see the similarities in the seal.
I am not totally saying Orly’s copy is fake. But the evidence sure points that way.
I understand everything you’re stating perfectly, but I still have a few questions:
Weren’t there several people discussing doing this very thing on the internet (DU, DKos, etc...)? And if that’s the case, a conspiracy could be proven provided there is actual interstate commerce occurring (selling of the document, electronic transfer of the document, whatever). Is that correct based on your take of the law?
I could swear that the interstate commerce clause wasn’t mutually exclusive though (in my initial reading of the posted law/statute). I thought the mere act of doing it was enough provided that it was intended to be used as an Identifying document of some sort...
The punk’d edition was started with one of the fakes of the original. You’re being herded to a conclusion not warranted by the exhibit in evidence. It is actually not possible at this time to know if the Orly exhibit is a fake. But Obama’s little liars platoon want mischaracterization to be the zeitgeist for this exhibit. The Aussie exhibit is a proven fake. Jury is still out on the original Orly exhibit.
They don’t have to admit to forging the Selective Service exhibits, they’re cold hard fakes, with at least five points which prove that! Obama is a fabrication, an illusion, a fraud, and he has used fraud and deceit to achieve his position as an affirmative action hire for the highest job he could be given.
How many Marxist nations can you cite that have changed for the better. Hint Russia is not one of them, Putin is still in charge and so is the KGB.
Like I said.
I downloaded the very first copy on Saturday nite from Orly’s site.
I then compared the copy from her site from saturday to the copy that I also downloaded on sunday.
They are different.
The original has no notation in the file ‘header’ when opened with notepad.
The ‘fake copy’ does. It says ‘Ducky Adobe’.
But, the ‘original’ has what appears to be the same ‘seal’ as the fake and punk’d one that matches the animated GIF in post 548.
Like I said. I’m not saying Orly’s is ‘fake’, but from what I’ve seen so far, my ‘guess’ would be that it is.
Just don’t know.
BTW. Just as a side note, the ‘Ducky Adobe’ header shows up on the so-called ‘real’ COLB from Hawaii, and has from day one.
None of them get better until they start converting to politically democratic, and freemarket driven economic models, in my opinion. I'm not sure I get your point though. I'm not suggesting we roll over and let this become a Marxist nation. On the contrary, we need to fight to the end to prevent that. What I'm saying is that the birther controversy is a non-sequitor with many otherwise conservative Americans and it is a distraction from the genuine dangers of this administration. For so long we decried that the media was ignoring this issue, and now that the heat is on the administration for their policies, the media picks it up to shine a spotlight it. That's not a conincidence. Nor is the fact that there have been so many bogus claims about the real birth certificate - in the unlikely event that the real one ever surfaces, the whole issue will be so tainted that no credibility will be granted to it.
There are similarities between the seal and the coin. But do we know the size of the coin in question and do we know the size of the paper so we can verify that they match?
You can do anything on the computer. I certainly can not make out the writing on the seal in the Orly document. Also it is not clear to me how you get an imprint in an actual document with a coin.
Yes the seal has similarities to the coin. But that would make sense if the coin uses an official emblem of the Republic of Kenya. see http://allthingskenyan.com/currency.html
But what is the size of the coin supposedly used to emboss the paper compared to the seal in Orly’s photograph? Do we know the paper size that would have been used for the Certification in 1964? What about size of the coin?
Also how does one emboss with a coin.
I know you can fake it in Photoshop.
Really! I wonder when that trip was planned? I don’t know if others see that our representatives are simply not trustworthy. Hillary, the older Alinsky acolyte, is part of a community that she dare not cross, even if she wanted to. Colin Powell, much as I didn’t like his positions, was free to disagree with his leader and his party, and often did.
We will never know the topics discussed in Kenya, but the brouhaha over the birth certificate can’t be ignored. Forget about the forensics, if there was a binder corresponding to numbering in the photo much debated and hacked, it seems unlikely that it will remain. Israel may be able to resist our brown shirts while they find trustworthy partners, but Kenya simply hasn’t the resouces.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8172274.stm
Yep, the bedspreads are different and the document’s paper is different in the forged photos. I’m not holding out a lot of hope for this one, but still...let’s hope that what Orly has submitted is not a fake.
Think this will be my last post on the BC thing for a while. I’m in “wait and see” mode now.
The President blew up the WTC.
How do you address post #548?
Try it.
Take a coin with good sharp features and place a sheet of paper over it.
Experiment with pressure, rubbing and striking with soft objects.
I tried this with a half dollar and some other large coins. It actually works pretty well. You have to be careful around the edge if the coin edge is sharp. But with a little practice you can get some pretty good results.
If a person has something resembling a press in their home (a bottle capper, garlic press or even long jawed pliers) they could probably get more consistent results.
Hush!
We’re still keeping that quiet.
I think it’s a fake trying to discredit what Orly Taitz has found.
Was it determined if the typewriter was Pica or Elite? If Elite then 12 characters/inch and from that I estimate seal to be around 1.25” in diameter.
That seems like a big coin. What is the size of the alleged coin? Is there anyway to find that out?
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