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Biology 101: Dissecting Today's Textbooks (teach your kids how to spot Evo-religion in textbooks!)
Answers Magazine ^ | Roger Patterson

Posted on 08/05/2009 11:15:25 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Today’s top-selling biology textbooks present evolution as the only scientific view of the history of life. Often these textbooks use faulty or deceptive evidences to support evolutionary ideas. Fortunately, students can easily equip themselves with free materials that dissect textbooks and reveal the truth...

(Excerpt) Read more at answersingenesis.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: aevojihad; biology; catholic; christian; crackpotcentral; creation; darwindronesexposed; evocretinismexposed; evocretinreligion; evolution; evoreligionexposed; intelligentdesign; science; scienceeducation; textbooks
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To: YHAOS

To whom are you addressing this question?


201 posted on 08/06/2009 1:26:15 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel; YHAOS

You do know that when you match up the name and post number of the reply, that that gives you a clue about who is being asked a question.

What with the way evos whine about courtesy pings, I know they know what they are.

Who do you think he’s talking to mr. first name in the *To:* field?


202 posted on 08/06/2009 1:52:09 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: xcamel
"To whom are you addressing this question?"

You know the drill. Pretended ignorance lacks class.

203 posted on 08/06/2009 1:52:56 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: metmom

I should think the poster would like to reply, unless you insist on being his or her nanny....


204 posted on 08/06/2009 1:54:11 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: wendy1946

This might help you:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=macroevolutionary+change+

I see there were 103,000 results in 0.14 seconds using the google.

Now lets try a related search:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Transitional+fossils+%20

Oh my there were 631,000 results in 0.42 seconds.

I guess you need to inform these people what everybody else already knows.

”Microevolution is a term - when used by creationists - that is the evolutionary equivalent of the belief that the mechanism you use to walk from your bedroom to the kitchen is insufficient to get you from New York to Los Angeles.” ~ Unkown


205 posted on 08/06/2009 1:56:52 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
Let us examine those Scriptures and see if the reasoning provided is correct.

In Job 38:12 God describes the dawn, the morning, taking hold of the extremities or ends of the earth, a phrase we use even today. It's called an idiomatic expression like “four corners of the earth”.
Then He says it changes shape like clay under seal and things can be seen, they take their station.

The clay and seal are an allusion to changing the shape or form of the clay. No flatness mentioned or involved.

Isaiah 40:22 It is the “stretching out” aspect of the curtain that is emphasized, the “dwelling” aspect of the tent, even as “tenting” meant to dwell, not any solidness.

The source of the word compass refers not to the instrument but rather to what it did, draw circles, hence our word “encompass”, meaning to enclose, draw a circle around.
No matter where one stood on a globe, a sphere, they would seem to be standing in a circle. No flatness involved.

Why not “above” a globe? We speak of the idea of a world government “over” the earth, whose power would be “above” all others, and so on.

Genesis 7:11 Both “fountains” and “sluices” (a better choice of meanings) and one used by Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew and English Lexicon, emphasize the flowing nature of the water and its source, not a hole in a solid sky.

Water, literal water was the subject under discussion and metaphors were used to describe certain features of it.

We do the same thing in our everyday speech and think nothing of it but here it seems to pose some sort of difficulty to understand that people have always done the very same thing we do in speech.

Trying to use these verses to show a belief in a flat earth or a solid “covering” over the earth shows both a lack of analytical skill and an lack of understanding of these Scriptures.

Then the biggie question is how do we distinguish between the literal and the metaphor, idiom, etc.?

Context and the “pattern” of healthful words as Paul said to Timothy. It takes a bit of study and such, and I don't mean of Google’s atheist web sites.

“But to accommodate those descriptions to what we know now about the physical reality of the solar system, one has to come up with all these explanations of how the words don't really mean what they say”.

Nonsense. No accommodation is necessary, what is necessary is understanding of what was said and why.

Jesus called Herod a “fox” but I rather doubt he believed Herod was anything but a human and it doesn't take a modern biology class to understand that.

“There are more”? By all means bring them on.

206 posted on 08/06/2009 3:13:32 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Ira_Louvin
This might help you...

"It has often been claimed, moreover, that these new and momentous findings have at last unearthed the true mechanism of evolution, and that we are presently on the brink of discovering precisely how macroevolution has come about. However, the truth of the matter is very much the opposite: now that the actual physical structure of what might be termed the biochemical mainstays of life has come into view, scientists are finding -- frequently to their dismay -- that the evolutionist thesis has become more stringently unthinkable than ever before... "

"...on the molecular level, these separations, and this hierarchic order stand out with a mathematical precision which once and for all silences dissent. On the fundamental level it becomes a rigorously demonstratable fact that there are no transitional types, and that the so called missing links are indeed non-existent."

    Wolfgang Smith, Ph.D
    Teilardism and the New Religion
    Tan Books and Publishers, Inc., 1988, p. 8

"People are misled into believing that since microevolution is a reality, that therefore macroevolution is such a reality also. Evolutionists maintain that over long periods of time small-scale changes accumulate in such a way as to generate new and more complex organisms ... This is sheer illusion, for there is no scientific evidence whatever to support the occurrence of biological change on such a grand scale. In spite of all the artificial breeding which has been done, and all the controlled efforts to modify fruit flies, the bacillus escherichia (E-coli), and other organisms, fruit flies remain fruit flies, E-coli bacteria remain E-coli bacteria, roses remain roses, corn remains corn, and human beings remain human beings."

    Darrel Kautz, Creationist Researcher
    The Origin of Living Things, 1988, p. 6

"The salient fact is this: if by evolution we mean macroevolution (as we henceforth shall), then it can be said with the utmost rigor that the doctrine is totally bereft of scientific sanction. Now, to be sure, given the multitude of extravagant claims about evolution promulgated by evolutionists with an air of scientific infallibility, this may indeed sound strange. And yet the fact remains that there exists to this day not a shred of bona fide scientific evidence in support of the thesis that macroevolutionary transformations have ever occurred."

    Wolfgang Smith, Ph.D Mathematics , MS Physics
    Teilardism and the New Religion
    Tan Books and Publishers, Inc., 1988, p. 5

207 posted on 08/06/2009 3:34:37 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Ira_Louvin
"With ... the inability of mutations of any type to produce new genetic information, the maintenance of the basic plan is to be expected." (p.168) "There are limits to biological change and ... these limits are set by the structure and function of the genetic machinery." (p. 153)

    Ph.D. L.P.Lester & R.G. Bohlin  (Creationists)
    The Natural Limits of Biological Change
    Zondervan/Probe, 1984

"No matter how numerous they may be, mutations do not produce any kind of (E)volution."

    Pierre-Paul Grosse
    past-President, French Acadamie des Science
    Evolution of Living Organisms
    Academic Press, New York, 1977, p 88

208 posted on 08/06/2009 3:35:37 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: metmom

I think “SQUAL” is a contorture of squeal and wail.


209 posted on 08/06/2009 3:36:23 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: metmom
Speaking of inventing language, what's *squal* mean? Is that like *passed* for having completed a course and getting a non-failing grade?

He's desperate he'll lose the sir-project-alot title. Probably all he's living for at this point too.

210 posted on 08/06/2009 3:47:58 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: ElectricStrawberry

What on earth has ever lead you liberals to believe you’ve actually ever engaged in discussion in the first place?

Sane people view your endless projections and liberal parroting as anything but rational intelligent discussions, dingleberry.


211 posted on 08/06/2009 3:54:17 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Ira_Louvin; wendy1946

Apprently wendy, Ira here thinks posting quotes from liberals like Dawkins on a conservative website is...

A. Making some kind of point.

B. Is clever.


212 posted on 08/06/2009 3:59:36 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: count-your-change; metmom
I think “SQUAL” is a contorture of squeal and wail.

I was thinking it was that liberal wailing you see right after they've been abattered about the head and shoulders.

214 posted on 08/06/2009 4:03:38 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: allmendream

And you know this how?


215 posted on 08/06/2009 4:05:23 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tpanther

That would be a wailing from a waling, so to speak.


216 posted on 08/06/2009 4:10:25 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: tpanther
Your argument is particularly flailing when you have to focus on mostly 7th century Islam

I didn't bring it up. You did.

217 posted on 08/06/2009 6:14:42 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: tpanther
...Jim Jones and ....

Ah you bring up JJ's!

Do you agree with this non-materialistic view held by JJ?

"This materialistic conception of reality eventually infected virtually every area of our culture, from politics and economics to literature and art"

218 posted on 08/06/2009 6:19:04 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: tpanther

Another anti-materialistic’s quote. Are you a materialist?

“...we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance ...”


219 posted on 08/06/2009 6:47:36 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: xcamel; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Funny how you leave out paleontology, molecular biology, medicine, organic chemistry, archeology, ecology, Anatomy, Astrobiology, Genetics etc. etc.

Darwin thought that circumcision is inherited. I guess we owe him for that discovery. What does it fall under? Genetics, medicine, Astro-biology?

220 posted on 08/06/2009 7:07:01 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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