Kenyan document ignites firestorm over authenticity (Let's Discuss Bomford HERE)

WND ^ | 8/4/09 | Staff

[pissant]

A document unveiled by a California attorney in her quest to determine President Obama's place of birth has been condemned as a forgery by critics who deride as nonsense the challenges that have been raised to the president based on the U.S. Constitution's demand that the Oval Office occupant be a "natural born" citizen.

But those on the other side, who would like to see the original documentation of Obama's birth place revealed, say there are factors that indicate the Kenyan birth document could be real.

WND reported when the document was submitted to a California court by California attorney Orly Taitz, who has managed several of the high-profile cases challenging Obama's eligibility to be president.

Then yesterday, Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., raised the dispute to the floor of that august body, protesting in a speech added to the Congressional Record that the dispute was not worth one minute of time.

[353FMG]

“...create a new one from a template, give it some custom folds for authenticity and viola!”

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Whoever went through these shinenigans to hide the truth of Obama’s BC should not go scott-free if Obama is discovered to be an imposter. They should appear in a court of justice with Obama and all politicians who knew his true identity, They should all have to pay the price for deceiving the American people.

[Electric Graffiti]

That link went viral last night. Can you say Denial of Service attack....LMAO.

[SirJohnBarleycorn]

Do you have any mates in Adelaide?

A straightforward way to put this to rest is for someone in Adelaide to pop into the Births, Deaths and Marriages Registration Office and nicely ask one of the clerks if there really exists a book “44B” with a page “5733” in the birth records in the year 1959. That would not be giving out private information, and a clerk could and likely would easily check that out. That would settle the question.

The Kenyan birth certificate and the Bomford birth certificate cannot both be real, because the coincidence of the book (44B) and page number (5733) of the birth register places that outside the realm of reasonable possibility.

[Yosemitest]

The FASCIST Obama minions are rapidly posting many fake variations of the real "Kenyan Certificate of Live Birth" just to "muddy the issue".

They hope people will give up on trying to sort out the real one from the thousands of fakes they are creating.

[353FMG]

I hope that these references have been recorded.

[Electric Graffiti]

Thanks Yosemitest.....but no E’s and K’s on this thread. Please ;)

[naturalman1975]

No, sometimes they are not.

But I’ve seen a lot of Australian birth certificates and I know what they look like, and so when the Bomford certificate ‘appears to be’ an Australian birth certificate, I’m going to need to see considerable evidence to convince me that it isn’t.

For all I know Kenya may have used a similar form. I’d like to see a Kenyan birth certificate of known provenance from somebody.

[pissant]

That would be especially true if what WND states is true:

That the Kenyan Obama document form matches other legit Kenyan BC’s they have.

[shield]

I’m with you...I posted them to see what FReepers thought...Of course, I’d love them to be true but with everything that’s been going on...It’s probably just more BS. Antimullah.com has them up on his site.

[Danae]

5733 is on the fake Kenyan. The original Kenyan says 67something3 I can’t make out the third number, but to me that first # looks like a 6. See the two pics above your post. the 5733 is the fake document.

[Bigh4u2]

Here is my latest findings.

Opening the Bromford B.C. in notepad shows ‘Lead Technologies Inc. V1.01’

Opening the ‘original’ Kenya B.C. (before it was changed at the website) shows nothing.

Opening the replaced copy of the Kenya B.C. says...”Ducky.......Adobe”

Here is the website for Lead Technologies Inc.

It’s an editing tool for...photos..

http://www.leadtools.com/

[naturalman1975]

Yesterday that might have been feasible - today, the Bomford story is in the Australian media and they’d know why they were being asked, and I suspect you’d just get referred to public affairs.

[devolve]

.

This is out of my area

Let’s just hook ‘em up to some jumper cables

It saves time

[Frantzie]

The attacks by the left are so nasty that they must be in a panic. I think docotrs or some medical people would have passed the hat to buy the Kenyan BC to stop Obama’s DeathCare.

I think this thing may come to a head before the Deathcare vote.

[sourcery]

But it will be us, not the idiots that came up with the fraud Bomford who ferret it out.

The authenticity of the Kenyan COLB uncovered by Taitz will have to be verified rather convincingly. That will require, at a minimum, a professional examination of the actual paper document, and comparison with others known to be valid. It will probably also require verification of the original BC (not just a COLB.)

There are two reasons this is so:

1. The media and the Democrats will accept nothing less (and many won't even accept it then,) and
2. Most thoughtful conservatives/Republicans will not want to establish a precedent where a President can be invalidated using anything other than the strongest evidence of his ineligibility.

[potlatch]

I thought you were pinging on some of the COLB threads recently and sending them out.

[Bigh4u2]

Here is the link to my first post on the subject.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?page=1019#1019

[conservativegramma]

The certificate is a blatant forgery. It is dated 17 February 1964 and was supposedly issued by the "Republic of Kenya".

Piffle. Kenya declared independence in 1963. Our (USA) Declaration of Independence references "United States of America". But we did not 'officially become' the United States of America until 1781 when the Articles of Confederation were ratified. By your logic The Declaration of Independence is a forgery!!!!!

And we both know that is absurd. Furthermore there is a newspaper article dated November 15, 1963 that refers to itself as the REPUBLIC of Kenya.

Maybe the newspaper reporter was a 'prophet' since by your line of reasoning Kenya couldn't possibly refer to itself as a republic yet!

[SirJohnBarleycorn]

According to freeper Swordmaker it's the same document - HE saved the doc at a different resolution and posted it, and then people inadvertently tried to compare the doc at two different resolutions. That's why it appears to have different numbers and a "K" instead of an "E" in one name, for example.

See the following posts:

It's irrelevant, pissant. I am going to say this one more time, LOUDLY.

I MADE THE PICTURE!

ME! Swordmaker.

No one else.

I made it from a PNG capture of Orly's on-line Flash. The picture, in the PNG format (lossless) clearly shows an "E", but after it was converted to JPEG, it shows an illusion of a "K" because of the artifacting introduced by the compression process.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?page=1462#1462

It certainly is my fault. I never in my wildest dreams would have thought that ANYONE would be attempting forensic analysis on a copy of a copy of a copy that has been JPEGed, and trying to make any probative conclusions from it.

I'll take the blame... and the heat if necessary. My shoulders are broad.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307402/posts?page=1467#1467

[Danae]

Yep.

The left is in full freak.

There is something to this. A lot of something to it and apparently ALL of those in DC know it and are scared crap-less about it.