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Kenyan document ignites firestorm over authenticity (Let's Discuss Bomford HERE)
WND ^ | 8/4/09 | Staff

Posted on 08/04/2009 7:33:27 PM PDT by pissant

A document unveiled by a California attorney in her quest to determine President Obama's place of birth has been condemned as a forgery by critics who deride as nonsense the challenges that have been raised to the president based on the U.S. Constitution's demand that the Oval Office occupant be a "natural born" citizen.

But those on the other side, who would like to see the original documentation of Obama's birth place revealed, say there are factors that indicate the Kenyan birth document could be real.

WND reported when the document was submitted to a California court by California attorney Orly Taitz, who has managed several of the high-profile cases challenging Obama's eligibility to be president.

Then yesterday, Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., raised the dispute to the floor of that august body, protesting in a speech added to the Congressional Record that the dispute was not worth one minute of time.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allahpundit; article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; bomford; certifigate; charlesjohnson; colb; hillary; hotair; larrysinclairslover; lgf; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; orly; orlytaitz; pumas; taitz
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To: papasmurf
It seems fruity to me, that you would call a person who is a Licensed Dentist (with several offices), a Real Estate Broker, and Lawyer (one who is certified to argue before the SCOTUS), speaks 5 languages, and a former Soviet Emigre to Israel, "fruity".

She comes off way too emotional and defensive when talking to the press who is obviously able to press her buttons. The press can make anyone look "fruity" if they are given the chance.

Besides... i didn't call her fruity... I said she SEEMS A LITTLE fruity... Perception is 9/10ths of reality.

She doesn't come off publicly very well at all....

Hows that? better?

And what the hell is she doing trying to validate a photo of a legal document? I call that a "little fruity".

She needs to team up with Keyes, and let him speak for her. It may just be her accent.

Either way, we need some more eggs, and more baskets to put them in.
241 posted on 08/04/2009 10:35:22 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: skully

After recently reading ‘Reagan’s War’ I’ve attached myself to HIS doctrine...and I think we all should...WE WIN, THEY LOSE.


242 posted on 08/04/2009 10:35:31 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: pissant
You just never know. Now time to do some more legwork on Mr. Lavender.

The link to TexasDarling should be posted in that other Big Thread and you should give a heads up to the powers that be. Or someone should, but I see it as your show in this one.

243 posted on 08/04/2009 10:36:30 PM PDT by dalight
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To: dalight

I pinged all the powers that be that nurture the long thread. If no one volunteers to add it, I will.


244 posted on 08/04/2009 10:38:00 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Lancey Howard
Good luck finding an old typewriter.

I have one in my basement quite similar to the one pictured in my post. And, if I didn't, I'm sure I could round one up on Ebay without much trouble.

245 posted on 08/04/2009 10:38:43 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: truthfreedom
Doesn’t matter anyway, because Lavender was the Registrar in Mombasa Kenya, which means that the Aussie Doc was the fake.

Unless the Aussie doc proponents can show a Lavender as a Registrar too who worked in ...South Australia. What are the odds?

246 posted on 08/04/2009 10:38:59 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Mount Athos

Credit given to you for posting the correct 1963 Constitution. But read the many posts by BP2 concerning Mombassa and it’s history. YOU DON’T KNOW IF THEY USED REPUBLIC OF KENYA ON THEIR DOCUMENTS. The question is yet to be resolved.

So stop beating a dead horse. Staggers the imagination.


247 posted on 08/04/2009 10:39:21 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: WVNan

Probably it is.

It’s not hard to get older records here, but if it’s likely the person is still alive, privacy laws apply.


248 posted on 08/04/2009 10:40:00 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: cynwoody

Well then... forge away!


249 posted on 08/04/2009 10:40:21 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: PureSolace

Don’t worry about the fonts. Yes, the fonts were the issue in Rathergate. But too many people are staring at the Bomford doc. The same data exists on both docs. That’s impossible.
One is right and one is wrong. The idea is to figure out whether or not the data - Lavender, Miller, Book 44B Page 5573
is accurate in the case of the Bomford doc.

The easiest way to prove that the info on the Bomford doc is wrong is to prove that South Australia does not use a Book / Page system. A journalist for ABC should know to check that, instead of alleging that the Kenyan doc was a fraud based on the Bomford doc.


250 posted on 08/04/2009 10:42:31 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Safrguns

I listened to her when she was on Savage...I had seen a video she did and I got the same impression. She just kind of gets excited. Now listening to her on Savage...I didn’t get that impression...she is from Poland and is an Israeli Citizen...she comes across just different because she is not an American. I believe with her degrees; she must be a very smart lady.


251 posted on 08/04/2009 10:43:24 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Red Steel

Sure - Eric Lavender. He was the Deputy Registrar General, Customer Services, for South Australia by 1990, which to me suggests he was quite possibly in a more junior position in the 1950s and 1960s.


252 posted on 08/04/2009 10:43:37 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Mount Athos
I think it is possible the Coast Province used Republic of Kenya earlier than the rest of the country. Some reading for you:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=5160#5160

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=5467#5467

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=5503#5503

253 posted on 08/04/2009 10:44:06 PM PDT by RubyR
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To: shield

We got em! DUmmies.


254 posted on 08/04/2009 10:45:27 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: RubyR; Mount Athos

You are right they certainly did. The FReeper that seems to have the best information on this is BP2. Do a search of his post and it will clear this up. It has to do with the 10 mile Island, this coastal region etc.


255 posted on 08/04/2009 10:48:11 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: naturalman1975

What is his middle name?


256 posted on 08/04/2009 10:48:11 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Red Steel

If the Kenyan Lavender holds up, the Aussie doc is a fake.
The odds are 0%, because Miller and 44B 5733 are also in common.


257 posted on 08/04/2009 10:49:17 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: naturalman1975
Sure - Eric Lavender. He was the Deputy Registrar General, Customer Services, for South Australia by 1990, which to me suggests he was quite possibly in a more junior position in the 1950s and 1960s.

Lavenders are everywhere. Definitive? And how about the tracking numbers?

258 posted on 08/04/2009 10:50:20 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: pissant

His middle name was Sparky


259 posted on 08/04/2009 10:50:27 PM PDT by woofie
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To: truthfreedom
NO Book and Page Reference on the bottom of the document:


260 posted on 08/04/2009 10:50:34 PM PDT by trueamerica
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