Kenyan document ignites firestorm over authenticity (Let's Discuss Bomford HERE)

WND ^ | 8/4/09 | Staff

[pissant]

A document unveiled by a California attorney in her quest to determine President Obama's place of birth has been condemned as a forgery by critics who deride as nonsense the challenges that have been raised to the president based on the U.S. Constitution's demand that the Oval Office occupant be a "natural born" citizen.

But those on the other side, who would like to see the original documentation of Obama's birth place revealed, say there are factors that indicate the Kenyan birth document could be real.

WND reported when the document was submitted to a California court by California attorney Orly Taitz, who has managed several of the high-profile cases challenging Obama's eligibility to be president.

Then yesterday, Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., raised the dispute to the floor of that august body, protesting in a speech added to the Congressional Record that the dispute was not worth one minute of time.

[1035rep]

Richard Bamford was just involved in a massive fraud case adjudicated in Australia on July 10th of this year. Bamford seems to go by the name Bomford.

Bookmarked

[naturalman1975]

Not in New Zealand, nor in Canada, nor in the UK as far as I can find. I’ve been looking at birth certificate images from across the Commonwealth all day.

So far, the only image I’ve seen for Kenya is tied up with this debate and so not one I’d trust.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

See this post from tonight ...on the Big thread....posted by David:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306351/posts?page=6542#6542

*****************************EXCERPT****************************

The part about Mombasa is fuzzed up--Coastal Province was part of Zanzibar until the agreement of October, 1963 at which point Zanzibar relinquished and ceded control over the area to the Republic of Kenya which did not yet exist. Immediately, all of the civil functionaries in Coastal Province changed their name to Republic of Kenya. These events are detailed in the local press and in history of the area and are all generally understood. I assume that is why the word "Province" came out of the hospital's name also.

[GLDNGUN]

Kenya became independent on 12 DEC 1963, and was actually called the ‘Dominion of Kenya’ with Queen Elizabeth II as the official head of state. She was represented by Governor General Malcom MacDonald. On 12-Dec 1964 the Republic of Kenya was declared, and the first head of state was Jomo Kenyatta who ruled until his death in 1978. So it's not BS, Kenya didn't become an official republic until 1964, though they did establish their Constitution in 1963. So if 0 was born in 1961, that would be 2 years before their independence from Brittan.

*SIGH*. The document (IF REAL) was produced in 1964 (not 1961), and Kenya was known as "The Republic of Kenya" since 1963 as has been posted on FR more times than you and I can count.

I REALLY hate it when people plop themselves in the middle of a conversation and make some declarative statement when they don't know what they are talking about or how the conversation has been going.

[naturalman1975]

Not the same person.

Richard Bamford (the one tied up in the fraud story) is a prominent accountant from Sydney. Richard Bomford is a Commonwealth public servant resident in Canberra.

[Electric Graffiti]

Excellent balsawoody,

Maybe Ogabe will try to create his nonexistent Hawaii longform birth Certificate that way /s

[cynwoody]

The problem is that Richard Bamford was just involved in a massive fraud case adjudicated in Australia on July 10th of this year. Bamford seems to go by the name Bomford.

Bomford was interviewed by Aussie media today. Wouldn't they have made the connection, if there was one?

[Lancey Howard]

Good luck finding an old typewriter.

[SoConPubbie]

The certificate is a blatant forgery. It is dated 17 February 1964 and was supposedly issued by the "Republic of Kenya".

No such country. The Republic of Kenya was not proclaimed until December 1964.

Both issues covered in great detail yesterday with very plausible reasons for both.

With regards to the date, it coincides with thier Divorce and the need to present a birth-certificate for the child by the father. The date is not his birth but the date of the issuance of the document.

[naturalman1975]

Adelaide (the capital of South Australia) is about 500 miles from where I live.

The registry would be kept at one of their central archives and you would only be allowed to check a record from the period of question if it was your own record or that of a dependent.

[Plummz]

Yeah I know... I looked... I think I was the first to post the Queensland, one but that was all I could find...

[naturalman1975]

Richard Bamford (the one tied up in the fraud story) is a prominent accountant from Sydney. Richard Bomford is a Commonwealth public servant resident in Canberra.

[Electric Graffiti]

I’ll check out your links. If he’s a skeptic....wouldn’t he try to punk the Kenyan B.C. by creating a fake with similar form, names, and book numbers? Sounds more plausible.

[shield]

E Bay has them.

[WVNan]

Oh my! That is a super find. One more nail in the coffin of one Aussie B.C. It’s a conspiracy. Those two names are just too coincidental.

[Frantzie]

LOL! Good post. LOL! Bad karma - well I hope so.

Hillary got punked by ACRON at the caucases. They bused in homey thugs from Chicago. The older ladies supporting hillary would leave the caucus room to go to the bathroom and the thugs would not let them back in the room. Or the thug would just go into the caucus room. Hillary was doom. One of the reasons the stock market started sinking June 2008 when the market knew it was over for Hillary.

You know the Clintons hate him and Bill and Hill have been scheming for months.

When I heard she was going to become Sec of State I thought why. Junior senator from NY behind Schumer is no party but nobody tells her what to do and a staff fawns over her. Plus she can shake down Wall Street and corps in Manhattan.

Sec of State is 5th in line of succession. Obama, Joe, Pelosi, Byrd then Hillary. The trick would be O, Joe and Pelosi go in one feel swoop for fraud. This leaves Byrd who is in bad shape. He then stands aside for Hillary.

Hillary blames GOP “racists” for picking on Obama after Obama pushes through marxism she only dreamed of.

People will say the Dems will stay by O through hell but maybe not. IF they see this going very bad they will blame conservatives then finally throw in the towel.

Orly may have the real deal. She could be Mossad or Russian intelligence. Or Clinton could have gotten it. British intelligence would surely have a copy. The Russians, French, South Africans, Israelis, Muslims, even the Vatican probably got one. The Catholic Church has not been around 1000+ years by being stupid.

I know people who do business with top people in a variety of countries in Africa and they laugh because they know he is a muslim and they know he was born in Africa. It is common knowledge over their and in european intelligence circles.

[Mount Athos]

*SIGH*. The document (IF REAL) was produced in 1964 (not 1961), and Kenya was known as "The Republic of Kenya" since 1963 as has been posted on FR more times than you and I can count.

Exactly the opposite is the case. The claim that Kenya was known as "The Republic of Kenya" since Dec 1963 has been debunked more times than you or I can count, and I've been following the entire discussion all the way through.

I REALLY hate it when people plop themselves in the middle of a conversation and make some declarative statement when they don't know what they are talking about or how the conversation has been going.

That's what I'd say about your thoroughly debunked claim that Kenya has been known as "Republic of Kenya" since Dec 1963.

[Electric Graffiti]

Wouldn't they have made the connection, if there was one?

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......Yeah right. They sure connected the dots with your MARXIST MUSLIM AMERICA-HATING ILLEGAL ALIEN in the WHITE HUT. Some Freeper said it best, we knew more about Joe the Plumber in 24 hours than we do about Ogabe in 24 months.

[pissant]

look for freepmail

[Bigh4u2]

Did I read this wrong?

“In both the aussie and the kenyan docs, it was Book 44B Page 5573. That impossible coincidence, along with Lavender and Miller, was what made it mathematically impossible for both the aussie and the kenyan docs to be genuine.”