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Kenyan document ignites firestorm over authenticity (Let's Discuss Bomford HERE)
WND ^ | 8/4/09 | Staff

Posted on 08/04/2009 7:33:27 PM PDT by pissant

A document unveiled by a California attorney in her quest to determine President Obama's place of birth has been condemned as a forgery by critics who deride as nonsense the challenges that have been raised to the president based on the U.S. Constitution's demand that the Oval Office occupant be a "natural born" citizen.

But those on the other side, who would like to see the original documentation of Obama's birth place revealed, say there are factors that indicate the Kenyan birth document could be real.

WND reported when the document was submitted to a California court by California attorney Orly Taitz, who has managed several of the high-profile cases challenging Obama's eligibility to be president.

Then yesterday, Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., raised the dispute to the floor of that august body, protesting in a speech added to the Congressional Record that the dispute was not worth one minute of time.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allahpundit; article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; bomford; certifigate; charlesjohnson; colb; hillary; hotair; larrysinclairslover; lgf; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; orly; orlytaitz; pumas; taitz
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To: alicewonders
Possibly because he didn't have a copy of his earlier certificate.

My original Australian birth certificate was lost - my current copy is from last year. I'm definitely more than one year old.

Check post #84 in this thread to see a sampling of Australian birth certificates - you'll see similar notations on most of them.

161 posted on 08/04/2009 9:39:12 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: taxtruth

[Yep,I heard savage tonite with berg,He agree’s with berg.Savage hates o.]

Is this so? He indicated nothing of the sort with last night’s interview with her. Savage being Savage.

What the hell did he say to make you so say?


162 posted on 08/04/2009 9:40:42 PM PDT by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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To: naturalman1975

Neither the 1955 nor 1959 Australia birth registrations refer to a book/page however ...


163 posted on 08/04/2009 9:41:03 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: ponygirl

A Canadian friend of mine stated that this format was widely used throughout the Crown.


164 posted on 08/04/2009 9:42:41 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: naturalman1975

In looking over the many birth certificates that you’ve been good enough to show, I’ve seen no reference to a book or a page.

It does not appear that Australia uses a system with a book and a page. But the Bomford doc references a book and a page.
Why would that be? Perhaps the Bomford doc is fake?


165 posted on 08/04/2009 9:42:41 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: naturalman1975

If what WND says is true, that Obama’s kenyan BC template matches other legit Kenyan BC’s then we’ll know Bomfords is fake. If not, we’ll keep diggin.


166 posted on 08/04/2009 9:42:57 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Or any book at all. I haven’t seen any reference to any books at all (so far) in Australia.


167 posted on 08/04/2009 9:45:38 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: pissant
Yesterday we found numerous references to the Republic of Kenya prior to their official declaration date.

That's not surprising, up until late 1963 they were a British colony, but actually began weaning themselves off of British rule as early as 1961 until they established their constitution in 1963. So references to a “republic” pre 1964 in anticipation of independence seems highly plausible. We referred to ourselves as the United States of America in 1776, it took until 1783 to be able to back that up, and until 1789 to become an official republic.

168 posted on 08/04/2009 9:47:24 PM PDT by skully (The Dems are home on break....Time to isolate and mock...turn the tables on the Aholinsky's)
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To: Plummz

Find a South Australian birth certificate (and I’ve been trying) and show that it doesn’t reference a book or page, and you might well be on to something.

But different states do things somewhat differently - I can’t find another SA certificate online anywhere - just NSW, QLD, and Victoria, so far.


169 posted on 08/04/2009 9:48:44 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: shield

Don’t know why it was a photo, but apparently it was according to the court filing.

Doesn’t mean it was fake. Just means they don’t have the paper copy in their possession.

Apparently Orly submitted the photo to the court in order to get a judgment to allow her to investigate further.

Maybe she needs a court order to check for other sources.

Don’t really know.


170 posted on 08/04/2009 9:49:13 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

Don’t go by what I say. It would only be true if looking for two different entries in the same country. I doubt that Kenya and S.A. would have used the same book......unless they somehow were kept in Britain.


171 posted on 08/04/2009 9:50:17 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: WVNan

Yeah. This whole Bomford BC and how it’s been handled is very suspicious.


172 posted on 08/04/2009 9:51:12 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: truthfreedom
In looking over the many birth certificates that you’ve been good enough to show, I’ve seen no reference to a book or a page.

It does not appear that Australia uses a system with a book and a page. But the Bomford doc references a book and a page.

Why would that be? Perhaps the Bomford doc is fake?

More likely it's just because it's South Australian - the only certificates I've been able to find online are from other states - common format (though not identical).

Find a South Australian birth certificate (and I've been trying) and show that it doesn't reference a book or page, and you might well be on to something.

But different states do things somewhat differently - I can't find another SA certificate online anywhere - just NSW, QLD, and Victoria, so far.

173 posted on 08/04/2009 9:51:54 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Bigh4u2

Boy, do I hope so. The left is going crazy. They know the punk was born in Kenya. I understand there was a recording of Michelle saying he was born in Kenya.


174 posted on 08/04/2009 9:52:32 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: rolling_stone
Someone posted this on FR earlier today, make your own Kenyan BC template -notice the DU in the url

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/img/09/bc_template.pdf

Neat! All I have to do is print it out, find an old typewriter, type in Bambi's details. Oops. Almost forgot. Need a notary stamp to make an indistinct circular impression. Or maybe photoshop a genuine one. Then fold it up, stick in pocket, go for ten-mile walk in 90° heat. Unfold, snap a medium-res photo at an angle, and post!


175 posted on 08/04/2009 9:52:51 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: WVNan

This is the part I was referring to..

“When I was researching family I looked at a lot of books at the court house. Events recorded in the books would sometimes cover as much as five years on the same page of the book.”

If this were true, then the two B.C.’s could have the same book and page reference.

Just one more piece to the puzzle.


176 posted on 08/04/2009 9:53:35 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: WVNan

Kenya and South Australia would definitely not be using the same book. Similar certificates, possibly. But separate registries. Constitutionally, it’s a state by state issue for Australia.


177 posted on 08/04/2009 9:55:06 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Bigh4u2

That was not on point.


178 posted on 08/04/2009 9:55:24 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: BonRad

You had to hear it... one of his comments to Berg were... those leftists... they are gonna be out for you.. you better watch out they will comin for you next... As if Berg didn’t know that already.

something to that effect. Savage HATES Obama with a passion. Trust me.


179 posted on 08/04/2009 9:55:26 PM PDT by Danae (- Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: truthfreedom

I don’t know how and where records are kept in Australia, but if they have court houses in each province it should be simple to go there and ask to search the books for records of a relative, etc. and see if the numbers match for 64. Naturalman should take a trip to S.A. court of records.


180 posted on 08/04/2009 9:55:32 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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