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UPI: 'Birther': She has Obama birth certificate
United Press International ^ | August 4, 2009 | UPI Staff

Posted on 08/04/2009 6:07:57 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american

MISSION VIEJO, Calif., Aug. 4 (UPI) -- A California lawyer who has filed a lawsuit alleging President Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen says she has a copy of his Kenyan birth certificate.

Orly Taitz of Mission Viejo, a leading "birther," filed a motion over the weekend for quick action on her lawsuit, The Orange County Register reported. She acknowledged the Kenyan document might be a forgery and asked U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to request verification from the Kenyan government.

"There are no ready means of authentication except by recovery of the original document," she said in her filing. "It is also apparent ... that political pressure may be brought to bear to destroy all relevant evidence, whether such evidence exists within or outside the borders of the United States of America."

Proof that Obama was born in Hawaii includes his birth certificate there, statements of Hawaiian officials and a birth notice in a Honolulu newspaper.

Taitz's document, described as a certified copy, says Obama was born Aug. 4, 1961, in a hospital in Mombasa. The document is dated Feb. 17, 1964, and stamped Republic of Kenya.

Media Matters for America, a Democratic-leaning watchdog group, says Kenya did not become a Republic until later in 1964.


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To: real_patriotic_american
Kenya did not become a Republic until later in 1964

Incorrect...it became a Commonwealth Republic in Dec.1964...and one of the prerequisites was that an applicant country had to be a republic already...interestingly enough, one of the sources for this was Wikepedia...but, it doesn't seem to be on the current Kenya page there. Another interesting fact is that one party rule was incorporated into the Kenyan constitution in Oct. 1964.
21 posted on 08/04/2009 6:28:49 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Now that the libs are in power dissent is not only unpatriotic, but, it is also racist.)
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To: real_patriotic_american

Mombasa was part of the state of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963 when it was ceded to be incorporated into the newly independent state of Kenya.


22 posted on 08/04/2009 6:29:36 PM PDT by stormer
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To: TheBigJ

“Happy Where’s Your Birth Certificate Day.”


23 posted on 08/04/2009 6:30:31 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: crazyhorse691

Read posts #10 and #22. It appears you are incorrect.

From post #10- “According to Wikipedia entries, Kenya ceased to be a Colonial entity of Britain on the 12th December 1963.”


24 posted on 08/04/2009 6:34:11 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: stormer

Yes, I’ve read that at several other threads here at FR.

You wrote-
“Mombasa was part of the state of Zanzibar until 12 December 1963 when it was ceded to be incorporated into the newly independent state of Kenya.”


25 posted on 08/04/2009 6:35:55 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: Hugin
The people in the middle are rapidly realizing how dangerous Obama’s policies are. The only thing that will stop a conservative resurgence in 2010 is if they view conservatives as a bunch of shrill, crazy kooks.

And protesters at Town Halls are being called right-wing extremists? Look no matter what we do the Dems, via their media pals, will paint us a s such. Thus we must proportionally take on each issue.

I believe in moderation in regards to strategy but as of now, after Hawaii once again claimed to have "seen" the original BC (because they have it in their possession) this comes down to very simple argument about intellectual honesty. If HI says they have "seen" it then it HAS NOT been released. Thus every anti-brther and syncophant leftist from top to bottom can't be allowed to claim that the COLB IS the long form BC. I believe that technically the COLB could be considered sufficient for HI to claim natural born status and thus pass constitutional muster but that does not mean we should cede to the dishonest position of the Obamots.

26 posted on 08/04/2009 6:38:03 PM PDT by torchthemummy ("...end up eating a steady diet of government cheese...and living in a van down by the river!" M.F.)
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To: LucyT

PING!

UPI’s version of Orly Taitz possessing Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.


27 posted on 08/04/2009 6:39:42 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: Aliska

PING!


28 posted on 08/04/2009 6:45:28 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: Arthur McGowan
Would the ledger books be in Mombasa, where Obama was born, or in Nairobi, the capital?


29 posted on 08/04/2009 6:45:59 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: real_patriotic_american
Government Type: Republic. Independence: December 12, 1963. Constitution: 1963. Branches: Executive--president (chief of state, commander in chief of armed forces), prime minister (head of government), and two deputy prime ministers. Legislative--unicameral National Assembly (parliament). Judicial--Court of Appeal, High Court, various lower and special courts, includes Kadhi (Sharia) courts.

From 1952 to 1959, Kenya was under a state of emergency arising from the "Mau Mau" insurgency against British colonial rule in general and its land policies in particular. This rebellion took place almost exclusively in the highlands of central Kenya among the Kikuyu people. Tens of thousands of Kikuyu died in the fighting or in the detention camps and restricted villages. British losses were about 650. During this period, African participation in the political process increased rapidly.

The first direct elections for Africans to the Legislative Council took place in 1957. Kenya became independent on December 12, 1963, and the next year joined the Commonwealth. Jomo Kenyatta, an ethnic Kikuyu and head of the Kenya African National Union (KANU), became Kenya's first President. The minority party, Kenya African Democratic Union (KADU), representing a coalition of small ethnic groups that had feared dominance by larger ones, dissolved itself in 1964 and joined KANU.

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Looks like the British called it Kenya back then , yes ?

I don't see anything about it being called anything but Kenya in modern history

30 posted on 08/04/2009 6:49:36 PM PDT by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: real_patriotic_american

Hillary is already headed to Kenya to “take care of some things”.


31 posted on 08/04/2009 6:50:09 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Obamacare: all the efficiency of the DMV and all the compassion of the IRS.)
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To: real_patriotic_american

Dangerously close to being a full fledged banana republic when we cannot conclude whether our leader is authentic six months + after he assumed power?


32 posted on 08/04/2009 6:50:27 PM PDT by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: KTM rider

Yes, I read that and I agree with you!


33 posted on 08/04/2009 6:52:46 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american
If the MSM, which certainly has enough people on the ground in Kenya, doesn't soon put other documents from the same period showing conclusively that the Taitz document has feature or features that are not possible, then I am going to assume that the Taitz document doesn't have any discrepancies with other period documents.

If the AP or the New York Times can debunk this by showing that there are discrepancies with known, authenticated documents, they will do so post haste.

If they don't do this debunking in the next 24 hours, then I think that there's a reasonable chance that the document doesn't have such discrepancies.

34 posted on 08/04/2009 6:53:09 PM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

When Hillary gets there, she might find that she needs to go to the U.K. (lol).

You wrote-
“Hillary is already headed to Kenya to “take care of some things”.”


35 posted on 08/04/2009 6:54:42 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: bethybabes69

“I have a feeling this is going to come to London, surely everything upto becoming a Republic is recorded with our Foreign office?”

IF POTUS Obama was indeed born in Kenya and the BC is authentic....a copy would be in England, would it not?


36 posted on 08/04/2009 6:55:58 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Good catch! Hillary is the bag lady.


37 posted on 08/04/2009 6:56:12 PM PDT by Palladin (Me to Gubmint Healthcare Counselor: "Get your ass out of here or YOU will be in intensive care!")
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To: eeriegeno

Orly Taitz case at the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, CA. (Lightfoot vs. Bowen) may be the beginning of the end for Obama’s stint in the White House.


38 posted on 08/04/2009 6:56:51 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: BulletBobCo
I don't think the real cert will pop up now that Raila Odinga (obama's cousin) is prime minister,

it will be like asking Fact check.org or SNOPES for the BC, it ain't gonna happen, Kenya gets major foriegn aid funding from the USA

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Principal Government Officials President--Mwai Kibaki Vice President--Kalonzo Musyoka

Prime Minister--Raila Odinga

Minister of Foreign Affairs--Moses Wetangula,

Ambassador to the United States--Peter Ogego,

Ambassador to the United Nations--Zachary Muita-Muburi

Consulate General Los Angeles--Nyambara Kamau

39 posted on 08/04/2009 6:57:29 PM PDT by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: snowsislander

Well, I have not yet to seen proof that the birth certificate in Orly Taitz possession is a forgery- maybe it is authentic. The timeline fits.


40 posted on 08/04/2009 7:01:06 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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