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Orly Taitz responds to forgery charges
Salon ^ | Aug. 4, 2009 | Alex Koppelman

Posted on 08/04/2009 11:27:49 AM PDT by Plutarch

Orly Taitz, the Birther lawyer who released the document that was supposedly a copy of President Obama's Kenyan birth certificate, has now taken to her blog with an angry screed in response to the evidence that her find is in fact a poorly done forgery.

Referring to the discovery that the purportedly Kenyan document was almost certainly based on a copy of a birth certificate issued for an Australian man, David Jeffrey Bomford, Taitz writes, "Recently Obama’s thugs in main stream (sic) media came up with this Bomford report in order to stop my efforts in exposing and prosecuting Obama. Though typically I don’t have time to waste on each and every dumb obot, since it got to National TV and my children's friends called my children, I’ll spend a few minutes to debunk the obots." She continues...


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KEYWORDS: afterbirthers; article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; orly; orlytaitz; taitz
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To: editor-surveyor
Seen this. Media blackout and threats:

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To: freekitty

Wow, pretty amazing article! (but not surprising)

"Media Blackout on Obama eligibility dates back to November
...
Although we do not have the birth certificate or proof of ineligibility, the Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press have documentation of a cover-up relating to the issue of Obama’s eligibility to hold office. The proof we possess not only exposes a well orchestrated cover-up, but also provides critical insight into why the topic of Obama’s eligibility has failed to gain traction in the corporate media.

The Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are in possession of extremely sensitive investigative documents, including a stunning written admission by a nationally known talk show host stating that he was threatened with his career – or worse - should he talk about the issue of Barack Hussein Obama’s birth records to a national audience. This document was obtained on December 10, 2008, and provides explicit detail of a “gag order” imposed on this host before and immediately following the national election last November."

Continued at the link you posted, here:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13373

6,298 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:52:58 PM by rxsid
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121 posted on 08/04/2009 2:45:22 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Oh no!

You must be one of those Conspiracy Theorists that I’ve heard about...


122 posted on 08/04/2009 2:48:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Plutarch
Why still cling to the Kenyan BC, like a PA voter to guns and religion?

I think that comment outs you quite well as an obamabot.

It isn't helping us wrest the long form BC from Obama

It's not???? Maybe he just doesn't have one or lost his. So we are all doing him a favour and going to have to find his birth certificate for him. And then graciously give it to him for Christmas or Ramadan.

123 posted on 08/04/2009 2:48:45 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Plummz
Thanks for the ping.

There are some who think the Australian BC may be a forgery intended to discredit the “authentic” Kenyan BC. While there may be some merit in this, I think the preponderance of the evidence at this point is that the Kenya BC is a knock-off of the Aussie BC.

It was a reasonably well done forgery, in that it could not be easily discredited on its face. However, the forgery contained information that could be checked, and when checked, would ultimately show the document to be false.

What could be the motive for a person to commit a forgery that would certainly be shown with the passing of time to be a forgery?

I can think of only two such motives.

Quite possibly, that person wanted to protect 0 by discrediting the “birther” movement - in that case look to links between that person and Obama-supporting groups (DU comes to mind), or even the DNC or the White House.

Or possibly, the person was deluded enough to think that the forgery wouldn't be spotted, or they were so desperate for attention that they didn't consider the certain aftermath of their actions.

I think the first scenario is the far more likely one.

124 posted on 08/04/2009 2:53:38 PM PDT by mojito
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To: Red Steel
The Northeast Intelligence Network and Canada Free Press are in possession of extremely sensitive investigative documents, including a stunning written admission by a nationally known talk show host stating that he was threatened with his career – or worse - should he talk about the issue of Barack Hussein Obama’s birth records to a national audience. This document was obtained on December 10, 2008, and provides explicit detail of a “gag order” imposed on this host before and immediately following the national election last November."

Explains the fearful silence from all the self-proclaimed bloviators whose bloviating has not stopped one iota of Obama's agenda to date. All they are doing is making their money complaining about Obama all the way to the bank --

125 posted on 08/04/2009 2:56:31 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

So are we saying Orly’s BC remains valid pending further scrutiny?


126 posted on 08/04/2009 3:00:13 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Plutarch
Well, it wasn't a poorly done forgery, because the combined efforts of FR were not able to discredit it until the Australian BC was found

I'm not caught up. The Australian BC looks more forged than the "Kenyan" one. The lettering, both ostensibly printed and typewritten, do not follow the folds in the paper.

127 posted on 08/04/2009 3:13:34 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: nathanbedford
This scenario is theoretically possible but not likely. Far more likely is a simple explanation that Barack Obama received an ordinary birth certificate as is normally issued upon live birth in a Honolulu hospital

But you ignore the "what is he hiding" issue. Before the election in particular, there was no reason not to acquire a copy of his original birth certificate. None, except that he was hiding something that it reveals. Just as he is hiding virtually all of his documentation such as college transcripts, medical records, etc, that most President's routinely release.

128 posted on 08/04/2009 3:23:37 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
So the proof that the Bomford doc has been photoshopped appears lacking.

The original Australian BC image was definitely created using LeadTools graphics software as previously reported in these two posts:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307802/posts?page=30#30

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307802/posts?page=40#40

Here is the LeadTools software product list:

http://www.leadtools.com/home2/VertMkts/LTProdOvrvw.htm

Go down and find David Jeffrey Bomford (#I0543) and run your cursor over the "b" following his name. You will see that there was a .jpg page at that time (2007) containing a birth certificate at THAT TIME. The .jpg page was not also archived by the Internet Archive.

This shows that there was a link to a .jpg document by that name in 2007. The .jpg link was not archived so there is no proof that the Australian BC purported "found" on 8/3/2009 ever existed prior to that date.

129 posted on 08/04/2009 3:25:09 PM PDT by Kells
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To: Lucas McCain

These are things that came up during the campaign, and I remember seeing the actual form from the Illinois Bar website for Obama. Everyone else was fixated on the fact that he didn’t admit to a bunch of traffic tickets, or some such thing, but the thing that caught my eye was the “NONE” under other names or aliases. I have tried to search for the document on the web, but have not found it. I did find this:
http://www.sodahead.com/blog/118727/why-did-obama-lie-on-his-illinois-bar-application/
and this:
http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showthread.php?t=160708
but the links to the form do not go there anymore.

I’m not sure if they discussed the draft registration here or not, but here is a sight that actually shows the card in question:
http://aconservativeedge.com/2008/11/15/obama-draft-registration-is-it-real-or-is-it-rathergate/

Sorry I wasn’t much help, but I hope this is the information you needed, or will get you started at least.


130 posted on 08/04/2009 3:26:23 PM PDT by LTC.Ret (I didn't spend 31 years in the Army to see my USA turn socialist!)
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To: Plutarch
Well, it wasn't a poorly done forgery, because the combined efforts of FR were not able to discredit it until the Australian BC was found.

But remember, the Australian BC shows clear evidence of multiple Photoshop layering.
131 posted on 08/04/2009 3:29:41 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Kells

I pointed out in the very language you quoted that the 2007 .jpg was NOT archived.

Do we know that the .jpg “found” on the web is not the same one that was there in 2007? No.

Listing the LeadTools software list does not advance the ball in either direction.

You would need to demonstrate that the LeadTools software used in the scanner which scanned this document was not availabe in 2007.


132 posted on 08/04/2009 3:31:31 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Plutarch

This from the :

http://www.antimullah.com/

Monday, August 03, 2009
STILL UNVERIFIED UPDATE ON KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE VALIDITY

Before reading the “affidavit” comment text below please take note that Hillary Clinton is scheduled to take what appears to be a surprise visit to Kenya today - August 3rd!

She departed Andrews AirForce Base for Nairobi, Kenya and has nothing scheduled for August 4th.

Is she rushing off to do damage control and buy the existing photos for Oba-Hussein now that the Kenyan BC has surfaced or indulging her own curiosity? Or to threaten or bribe Kitau and others into silence?

Remember that during her campaign, a lawyer who supported her for President had announced that two certified copies of the Kenyan Birth Certificate had been brought out of Kenya and were going to made available to the lawyer or Hillary campaign - but nothing came of it.

STATE DEPT. APPOINTMENT CALENDER FOR AUG 03 click here - coincidence?

COMMENT ON THE KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE COPY

kenyan

I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya.

I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put on by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical.

I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven.

So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964.

The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the “copy” of the original was ordered.

I stress the word “copy.”

My copy also has republic of Kenya.

So what you say is true about Kenya not being a republic at the time of Obama’s birth, however it was a republic when the copy was ordered.

The birth certificate is genuine. I assure you it will be authenticated by a forensic auditor.

We are very proud Obama was born here.

We have a shrine for him and there are many people who remember his birth here as he had a white mother.

They are being interviewed now by one of your media outlets.

Fortunately they even have pictures of his parents with him immediately after his birth at the Mombasa hospital with the hospital in the back ground.

It will be a proud day for us when it is proven that he was born here and a Kenyan became the most powerful man in the world.

I encourage anyone to come here and visit.

I will be happy to take you and show you the pictures at the hospital myself as well as my document and many others that are identical to what Taitz posted.

God Bless.

Kitau

MEANWHILE FROM LONDON

Carl says: “I can’t identify myself here because I’d lose my job.

I’m a low level employee of the US State Department attached to the Overseas Service and I just finished a conference call with two lawyers in London and two journalists from Politico.com who all stated that they just left a late meeting at the London Foreign Office and they were assured that “The Kenyan birth certificate is without question, 100% authentic.”

I’m not surprised.”


133 posted on 08/04/2009 3:41:44 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's Health care is Like Cash for Clunkers! Dead on Arrival.)
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To: newfreep

you bet — authentication is still pending


134 posted on 08/04/2009 3:47:22 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Red Steel
a nationally known talk show host... was threatened with his career – or worse - should he talk about the issue of Barack Hussein Obama’s birth records to a national audience... "gag order" imposed on this host

This is standard Obama modus operandi. The administration has recently tried to impose a gag order on Congressional critics of the stimulus program as reported here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307936/posts

135 posted on 08/04/2009 3:48:51 PM PDT by Kells
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To: Plutarch

She reminds me of Larry Klaman. All hat, no cattle.


136 posted on 08/04/2009 3:58:36 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Kells

MO is right. I recall, I think sometime last year, WLS the Chicago radio talker was threatened to keep a critic of Obama off the air.


137 posted on 08/04/2009 4:08:02 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: nathanbedford

I’m going to have to reject your judgment on Dr. Taitz, primarily because you have offered no logical support for it.


138 posted on 08/04/2009 4:10:34 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Liberals have neither the creativity nor the confidence to understand the truth of conservatism)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Do we know that the .jpg “found” on the web is not the same one that was there in 2007? No.

We don't know either way. The Australian reporter should have checked to see if there was a book 44B with a page 5733 at the registry. If Bomford wants to prove validity of his document, he could ask the registry to make an updated copy and video the process.

139 posted on 08/04/2009 4:20:17 PM PDT by Kells
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To: x; Genoa; LTC.Ret
Residence is an iffy question. If her parents lived in Hawaii and she considered it her permanent residence that may have been enough, particularly if she was a student.

Perhaps, but I'd still bring it up in court. And at that point adding on by saying Stanley Ann further lied by omission. She failed to inform the court that her "husband" Obama was a polygamist. The point here is not to convict Ann Duhnam of perjury but to put doubt in the mind of the judge that Obama's mom and her son have lied on official documents and to the court of law.

As to the aliases: is this another case of putting the cart before the horse? That is to say, do we actually know what he wrote on his bar application? Has anyone actually seen that application? Or are you just assuming that he left out his other name? So many conjectures come up once once and then people assume that they are proven facts. It's worth asking where the documentation is.

It's not conjecture what is published on the web, unless this is conjecture below:

Has barack Obama ever gone by another name? Barry Soetero perhaps? It looks like Obama lied to the "Full Former name(s)" block in his Attorney's Registration of the Court of Illionis.

I'm speaking here hypothetically trying to convince the judge to go on to the next step - discovery. Unless the opposing lawyers can counter the claims, I think I would convince the judge to take the next step as I have point out.

140 posted on 08/04/2009 4:37:42 PM PDT by Red Steel
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