Birthers Proven Right: Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate Found

examiner.com ^ | August 3, 2009 | Geoff Linsley

[kellynla]

For about a year now there has been a great deal of debate about whether or not President Barack Obama is truly a natural born American citizen. According to the Constitution, Article 2, Sec. 1, “No person except a natural born citizen…shall be eligible to the office of president.” The Obama campaign and administration have always claimed that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. A Certificate of Live Birth was presented by the Obama campaign showing that Obama is an American citizen[1]; however, Hawaiian law didn’t require Obama to actually have been born in Hawaii in order to obtain this registration.[2] This, among other things, has created a public outcry – from a group now referred to as “birthers” – for Obama to show his long form birth certificate, which would disclose information such as which hospital he was born in, who delivered him, etc. that would solidify the fact that he actually was born in America. The Obama campaign and administration have failed to present this document to anyone. Instead, they have been suppressing the issue using two tactics: hiring lawyers to defend him against the legal dilemma – such as lawyer Perkins Coie, who was paid $688,316[3] – and creating the ignorant propaganda, repeated by many liberals, that anyone who questions Obama’s eligibility is weird, crazy or racist. The liberal mainstream media has propagated the latter tactic through news broadcasts, such as Nightly News with Brian Williams, which incorrectly assert that Obama has proven his eligibility.[4]

[RockyMtnMan]

Can you walk and chew bubble gum at the same time? I’m fairly certain we can focus on more than one issue at a time. The media will report whatever they want to report, not really much we can do about that.

[BP2]

The ten-mile coastal strip, or mwambao, which is part of "Coastal Province" today, was seceding and didn't want to be annexed by Zanzibar as the former British rule was handing over power.

It became independent on Oct. 17, 1963 via an agreement between Prime Minister of Kenya Messrs Jomo Kenyatta, and the Prime Minister of Zanzibar M. Shamte nearly TWO months earlier than the rest of Kenya declared independence on Dec. 12, 1963. The Muslims in the ten-mile strip seemingly called themselves the "Republic of Kenya" in 1963, before the rest of the country was officially known by the same name on Dec. 12, 1964:

[DustyMoment]

What person in their right mind would turn over control of this country to people obsessed with this birth certificate issue?

You've missed the point entirely. NO ONE turned over control of the country to people obsessed with the birth certificate issue, they turned control of the country over to people obsessed with class warfare and taking from those who have earned what they got.

If you LOVE marxism, you LOVE Obama!!

[DJ MacWoW]

Another newbie heard from. And your reasoning is flawed. It can be authenticated by proving it’s not a forgery.

[Eagle Eye]

So in your opinion, the other side set all this up hoping we’d take the bait so we’d be distracted from other issues?

So the fact that O won’t release his actual birth certificate but instead use fake colb online, then hid all his other personal documents was just a detailed ruse to steer a small number of irrelevant kooks off on a snipe hunt?

Yeah, I see it...the REAL conspiracy was soros setting all this up so we’d find it and follow it down a dead end road...ok, yeah, you’re probably right but I still want him to prove his qualifications to hold office!

[DJ MacWoW]

And the complete irony is, where are you posting instead of out doing something “important”?

[Fractal Trader]

This is a message board where people share opinions. I’m sharing mine. It’s forceful, it’s persuasive, and it’s articulate

Not to mention vain and obnoxious.

[domenad]

What do you mean “enforce” it? How the hell can I enforce anything? I wouldn’t “enforce” you into so much as flicking a booger if you didn’t feel like it. I’m just telling you, this issue will do nothing. You won’t chance upon the “out” that gets rid of Obama. You’ve got to beat this guy with ideas, you need a vision for America that exceeds his. Do you have it? Because the polls say otherwise at the moment.

[sonic109]

Yea , I’d like to see his school records and such myself. They scrubbed him clean before they put him out there. Time will tell on the newest “real”BC. I wouldn’t bet the farm on it . The childish remarks are proving my point that some have really brought down the quality of FR post lately.

[MizSterious]

It’s so much easier to just tell everyone else what to do. ;)

[DJ MacWoW]

LOL ;-)

[mvpel]

It’s not about “lucking into the presidency” or whatever other irrelevant motive you’re ascribing here, it’s about the fundamental principle of whether we live any longer in a society governed by law and the Constitution on the subject of the most basic qualifications of our nation’s chief executive.

[Corazon]

KENYA INDEPENCE 12/12/1963 AND REPUBLIC 12/12/1964 BUT SINCE THE INDEPENCE DAY WAS A REPUBLIC OF KENYA. ---------------------------------------

HowStuffWorks "Geography of Kenya"

Kenya, or Republic of Kenya, a country in East Africa. ... Flag and coat of arms : Kenya's flag and coat of arms were adopted in 1963. ... The coat of arms has two lions holding spears and the Swahili word for pulling together. ...

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Howstuffworks "Geography of Kenya"

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Coat of arms of the Central African Republic. Details. Armiger, Central African Republic. Adopted, 1963. Motto, unite dignite travail ...

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[Eagle Eye]

I’m just telling you, this issue will do nothing.

That is what they said about the Impeachment process, too.

And true, we did not get the man convicted, let alone pushed out of the WH but he was inpeached!

If this isn't your issue then why oppose it?

If gun rights is not your issue do you oppose those who are excited about gun rights?

Or if prolife issues don't excite you, do you get on those threads and try to talk people out of their motivation to pursue that issue?

If not on those issue, then why on this one?

[MARTIAL MONK]

And the complete irony is...

No irony there. Today's mail will be here in about an hour. Usually Monday brings a half dozen to a dozen letters from Republican acquaintences dating back to the Reagan campaign. Ideas and mullings and musings.

And none of this crap.

[DJ MacWoW]

Again with the irony. Posting on the very thread that you complain about. If it’s unimportant, why are you here?

[MrB]

Kind of like the “Palin is irrelevant” news articles.

[MizSterious]

To quote the old vaudeville hacks...

Gee, I’d love to help you out. Which way did you come in?

[DJ MacWoW]

Kind of like the “Palin is irrelevant” news articles.

Yes. Exactly the same. And trying to discourage speech and thought on a subject they disapprove of. Not quite conservative values. But very controlling.

[Jaidyn]

There’s a difference between quitting and cutting your losses. This issue is being used to discredit us more effectively than we can use it to discredit Obama. It’s time to jettison it. We have more places we can attack than we know what to do with, it’s time to leverage some of them.

This issue that is being used to discredit us, is from the Alinksy play book, which is to ridicule the opposition until they are neutered. We attack where we can, and with the truth. We can use their play book against them. Quitting is not an option.