Fake Obama Kenya birth certificate?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/Fake-Obama-Kenya-birth-certificate ^ | 08/02/2009

[Jim Robinson]

And then one of our moderators spotted this:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/Fake-Obama-Kenya-birth-certificate

It has several clues, but also there's this question:

Who is E. F. Lavender?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=earth+friendly+lavender&aq=f&oq=&aqi

Earth Friendly Lavender detergent?

[Raycpa]

[brytlea]

Oh come on, you know that babies always arrive on their due dates! ;)

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

#59 is incorrect. The second image with “E.F. Lavender” is just a close-up of the first image. But WND did say they inspected another Kenyan BC for consistencies and it checked out... they just didn’t say anything about a second signature from E.F.

I’m totally up in the air on this. I want to believe it, but I don’t want to get burned.

[Uncle Sham]

Well, perhaps you can explain what section three of the Twentieth amendment means with the phrase “or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify” What on earth could this be talking about?

[Marty62]

Someone went to ALOT of trouble to make this appear real.
What about the Divorce papers?

[penelopesire]

I don’t get the feeling that ‘E.F. Lavender’ is a person but that it is more like a district or registar name..perhaps named after a person back in the day.

[1951Boomer]

I ask again what may be a dumb question: Wouldn’t one expect the occasional bureaucrats/registrars to have British names, given the deep ties between the two nations? How different is it from someone like Paul Running Bear signing a BC for a kid born to a German mother while she is visiting an Indian reservation here? Not the best example, but you get my drift. I’m neither advocating nor rejecting this document’s validity. I’m just posing a question about this particular point that has everyone so riled.

[sushiman]

Somebody made a good point :

>Not “anal”. Just asking questions like everyone else here. It simply makes no sense to me that two people would travel to a 3rd country, not either of their home countries, to have their child. If you think that’s perfectly understandable, fine. I don’t.
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[Arthur McGowan]

Which means that the “E.F. Lavender” signature in no way calls this latest document into question.

And the number: If it weren’t 47044, it would be something else—and somebody could come up with reasons that it COULDN’T be a coincidence.

I’m not convinced this is an “obvious forgery” yet.

[jveritas]

This Kenyan Birth Certificate is a fake as CBS memos about President Bush national guard. Free Republic was the first to expose the CBS fake memos and I hope that Free Republic will not fall for a fake Kenyan birth certificate.

It is good Jim that you spoke on this issue.

[seekthetruth]

In case anyone is interested, Attorney Orly is to be on the Bill Cunningham show tonight at 10:00 Eastern. Here is the link:

http://www.premiereradio.com/shows/view/live_on_sunday_night.html

[John Valentine]

Since the Copy of the Birth Certificates states “Signature of Registrar—— E.F. Lavendar” and the Signature on the bottom of the document is the ‘Deputy Registrar’ and signed by “Joshua Simon Oduya”, that only shows they are two different people representing the government Registrar’s office.

The first, E.F. Lavender, is the name of the registrar in 1961 whose name appears on the referenced record in book 44B on page 5733. The second, E.H. Miller, is the registrar in 1964 at the time the certificate attesting to the content of the record was prepared. Joshua Simon Oduya is Mr. Miller's assistant who prepared and signed the document.

[FReepapalooza]

To dilute the issue. To make it seem like they are all fake. Oldest playlist in the book.

[1951Boomer]

I just looked up the origin of the surname Lavender, and it is English. I’m agnostic on this particular document, but I don’t yet see this name as a problem in a country with close ties to England and, thus, entrenched British-surnamed bureaucrats.

[mel]

102181 sealed it for me fake of well

[mel]

102181 sealed it for me fake of well

[maggief]

Not sure ... I did come across a William and a Frederick Lavender predating E.F., both registrars, IIRC.

FWIW.

[Raycpa]

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[Mr Ramsbotham]

Not “anal”. Just asking questions like everyone else here. It simply makes no sense to me that two people would travel to a 3rd country, not either of their home countries, to have their child. If you think that’s perfectly understandable, fine. I don’t.

And what I'm saying is that there are a million and one reasons why someone might do something that might seem on the face of it to be illogical or unreasonable.

[Houghton M.]

Zanzibar was not a “third country.” The whole region was British-controlled but with differing structures. Mombasa was “nominally” under the control of Zanzibar, which, I believe, had at least the notion of some “autonomy” rather than a direct British colony. But Zanzibar was under heavy British influence. Eventually most of Zanzibar went with Tangyanika to form Tanzania but Mombasa went to Kenya. But it had long-standing ties to Kenya. In 1961, going to Mombasa from Kenya was not exactly “going to a third country.”