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Birth of a nation: Too many Americans buy crank theory on Obama's citizenship
New York Daily News ^ | Saturday, August 1st 2009

Posted on 08/01/2009 1:38:58 PM PDT by presidio9

There's Red America, Blue America and Tinfoil Helmet America. And it looks like the third camp is enormously larger than anyone feared.

A new poll, commissioned by the liberal Web site Daily Kos found that fully 11% of Americans think that Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States. And another 12% said that they are unsure.

The doubters are heavily concentrated in the Republican Party, according to pollsters. An amazing 58% of the surveyed Republicans questioned whether Obama, in fact, entered the world in Hawaii.

What this means: Millions of Americans suspect or are convinced that Obama, son of a Kenyan father, is not a citizen and thus cannot legitimately serve as President. And no Hawaiian birth certificate or newspaper announcement from the time will convince them otherwise.

Who are these people? They're the ones whose feet are not planted on U.S. soil - or any soil.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; afterbirthers; article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; conspiracytheory; imom; kenya; kenyan; muslim; mysteryman; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obroma; presidiot9; thenew911truthers
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To: Star Traveler
Several people claim they've seen it, Bill O'Reilly now has we hear.

If as we contend, that Obama and the ones responsible for making sure that he was qualified according to the Constitution, have failed the election process and the Constitutional rights of American Citizens/Voters in their fiduciary and sworn duty to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America, then we have the right to question and to redress our wrong and to make them prove what they are claiming

261 posted on 08/01/2009 4:26:26 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Star Traveler
Nah, I'm not confused, you're demented.
262 posted on 08/01/2009 4:27:00 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: wiggen
The News is usually worth reading since it covers some local issues that the Post does not. Then we have bright spots like Errol Louis exposing Sotomayor.

Why everyone feels they must jump on this issue with a strong opinion when we are all still in the dark is beyond me.

263 posted on 08/01/2009 4:27:03 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: djf

I don’t scorn people but only answer them in kind... you’ll find that I pretty much stick to the topic... all the time.. but it’s usually a certain number of posters who come in saying “troll” or “liar” or “Obot” or “any-slur-you-want”... and so on...

I don’t get that kind of stuff going... just check out my comments...


264 posted on 08/01/2009 4:27:05 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Anyone else can see it plainly... so I don’t know what more I can do to help you out...


265 posted on 08/01/2009 4:27:50 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

“[ *hint* — there is no *legal requirement* for a candidate to show his birth certificate... ]”

You keep repeating the same old clap trap over and over and you are WRONG!


266 posted on 08/01/2009 4:29:03 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: djf; All

“Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‘i State Department of Health...”.

So the Doctor says that she’s seen the proof that Soetoro is a ‘natural born citizen’, but won’t elaborate on the points that bring her to that conclusion. In any case, she’s not a judge.


267 posted on 08/01/2009 4:30:00 PM PDT by perchprism
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To: MHGinTN

and you don’t want to know what the hourly rate of their attorneys is !! I’d say the younger associates charge a minimum of $400/hour and the top dawg, Bauer, probably gets double that. I haven’t kept up with attorney fees, but the big shots DO make nice $$$$$.

If they are charging less, it is offset by business to the firm from other BHO/DNC affiliations. They are not pro bono in the sense that others think of and do pro bono work.


268 posted on 08/01/2009 4:30:09 PM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: Star Traveler
My salute to you for troll of the year

(_!_)

269 posted on 08/01/2009 4:30:31 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: 1000 silverlings

The only one that I know of, for sure, that has stated that they’ve seen the birth certificate is the State of Hawaii, through their official website...

http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‘i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

And since the State of Hawaii is an official government organization, plus a “state” and the *very state* that holds the birth certificate, and from the beginning, and they are the only ones who can even issue a “certified copy” — I would say that this is pretty solid and definitive — when they say that Obama was born in Hawaii and that Obama is a natural-born American citizen.

BUT..., if you really want to *see* the birth certificate for yourself, the only way that’s going to happen is if you get a state law passed to that effect...


270 posted on 08/01/2009 4:31:20 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
One person?

It appears to me that conservative Freepers are overwhelming in support of states passing laws to require documentation of eligibility.

271 posted on 08/01/2009 4:32:22 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Bigh4u2

Well, if that’s wrong — then why hasn’t anyone been able to get a court to order the birth certificate under *some law* that you think exists already? LOL...


272 posted on 08/01/2009 4:32:58 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

O’Reilly made the claim that he investigated, saw the document, and it’s all hogwash and we are all cranks


273 posted on 08/01/2009 4:33:10 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: wintertime

I just listed two, right here on this thread...

If I were to start keeping a count and keep all the postings to that effect, I would come up with hundreds of postings...

But, in any case, you’ve got *two* right here, on this thread and today...


274 posted on 08/01/2009 4:34:20 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: wintertime

I don’t care that you work to pass new laws, but I am contending along with a few others that the Constitution compels him to qualify


275 posted on 08/01/2009 4:34:33 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Star Traveler

If you have read the CONSTITUTION you will find it’s there!

MUST BE QUALIFIED!

That means PROOF!

BTW. Your constant “LOL” is bordering on being ‘maniacal’!

Not a good mental health sign!


276 posted on 08/01/2009 4:35:45 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: 1000 silverlings

I agree.

But...I also support the states passing laws for candidates to prove they qualify.


277 posted on 08/01/2009 4:35:47 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: 1000 silverlings

That may be him, but I’m talking about the State of Hawaii, who is the *keeper* of the document, who received the first copy ever of that document, and who is the one who *even* sends out the “certified copy” — they are the ones who say that Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen...


278 posted on 08/01/2009 4:36:01 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Jeffrey_D.

LOL! Great pic :)


279 posted on 08/01/2009 4:36:31 PM PDT by conservativegramma (Palin has my vote: whoever the media hates I love)
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To: Bigh4u2

And we’ve got confirmation from the State of Hawaii that says he *is* qualified...

BUT, if you or anyone has evidence to the contrary.., please produce it as soon as possible so we can get this taken care of...


280 posted on 08/01/2009 4:37:43 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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