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Birth of a nation: Too many Americans buy crank theory on Obama's citizenship
New York Daily News ^ | Saturday, August 1st 2009

Posted on 08/01/2009 1:38:58 PM PDT by presidio9

There's Red America, Blue America and Tinfoil Helmet America. And it looks like the third camp is enormously larger than anyone feared.

A new poll, commissioned by the liberal Web site Daily Kos found that fully 11% of Americans think that Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States. And another 12% said that they are unsure.

The doubters are heavily concentrated in the Republican Party, according to pollsters. An amazing 58% of the surveyed Republicans questioned whether Obama, in fact, entered the world in Hawaii.

What this means: Millions of Americans suspect or are convinced that Obama, son of a Kenyan father, is not a citizen and thus cannot legitimately serve as President. And no Hawaiian birth certificate or newspaper announcement from the time will convince them otherwise.

Who are these people? They're the ones whose feet are not planted on U.S. soil - or any soil.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2009polls; afterbirthers; article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; conspiracytheory; imom; kenya; kenyan; muslim; mysteryman; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obroma; presidiot9; thenew911truthers
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To: STE=Q

You said — IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO DOESNT?

Another one for you.... :-)


... we don’t need any more laws for our so called legislators to ignore and show their contempt for us by ignoring our simple requests, based on our Constitutioal rights, given to us by our Creator.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2306118/posts?page=236#236


241 posted on 08/01/2009 4:07:44 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: EDINVA

Thanks, I could not remember the other name in the firm title. The demand for ‘proof’ that has been posted umpteen times is just a diversion, a way to try and misdirect and squelch the discussion.


242 posted on 08/01/2009 4:08:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

That’s a state form that he signed... you’ll see that it’s Arizona and he had to meet *their requirement* in order to get on the ballot — not the DNC’s requirement to get on the ballot (in the state of Arizona)...


243 posted on 08/01/2009 4:09:13 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Uncle Sham; pissant
You are right, "he shall have qualified". His oath that he was a natural born citizen was based on the proof of his long form document. If his amended adoption nullified it,or whatever other reasons there are, he was not qualified
244 posted on 08/01/2009 4:09:54 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Jim Noble; EDINVA

Ping ... the next time you demand to be shown the evidence, go put some ice on it.


245 posted on 08/01/2009 4:10:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Star Traveler; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
Follow the threads and you see exactly what is said... :-)

You said I was one of them, pony up the donation, now

246 posted on 08/01/2009 4:12:06 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: Star Traveler

He swore the oath and based the proof that he was qualified on the long form document. Now we want to see the proof, simple. Back up his claim, the onus is now on him


247 posted on 08/01/2009 4:13:07 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Okay you make a funny joke on that thread and I can laugh too, like I said... LOL...


Okay... funny, funny... I can laugh, too... :-)


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2303725/posts?page=139#139


248 posted on 08/01/2009 4:13:50 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

I’ll make you a deal.

I will write an article soon and I will mention ‘your idea’ in the article — as a solution for future elections.

In the mean time how about getting out of the way of those of us that are trying to do something that we believe will help in the present?

Let’s call it a two prong strategy.

OK?

THANKS!

HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!

STE=Q


249 posted on 08/01/2009 4:14:36 PM PDT by STE=Q
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To: 1000 silverlings

And how you get that proof is the state law that requires a candidate to show his birth certificate or else he cannot be placed on the ballot...

And the reason *why* you get that state law enacted is because there is *no legal requirement* to show the birth certificate...

The one follows the other....


250 posted on 08/01/2009 4:15:24 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

He has a fiduciary duty to show it


251 posted on 08/01/2009 4:16:16 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

All you have to do is follow exactly what the thread says... the reason why you think that, is basically you can’t follow the thread...

There’s nothing I said like that. Your problem is that you can’t follow a thread... and that’s why you’re confused...


252 posted on 08/01/2009 4:16:36 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Then why haven’t you or anyone else been able to see the birth certificate?

[ *hint* — there is no *legal requirement* for a candidate to show his birth certificate... ]


253 posted on 08/01/2009 4:17:43 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

“Show me one court who has removed Obama from being a candidate because of this...”

Your responses-arguments (shudder)- remind me of my first ex- wife.


254 posted on 08/01/2009 4:19:13 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: STE=Q

These birth certificate threads have basically *one goal* in mind — which is to *show the birth certificate*...

And the problem is that many seem to be stumbling over this issue because they don’t seem to realize that there is *no legal requirement* for a candidate to show his birth certificate...

That is the *very core* of the issue on all these threads...

Thus once someone realizes this basic idea, then it’s obvious that the next step (and only step that will work to solve the problem) — is — get a state law enacted that requires a candidate to do that...

Hence the reason why I’m here...


255 posted on 08/01/2009 4:20:27 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: firebrand

From someone living here a very long time;We once upon a time,in the 1960-90’s,had one elitist paper which shall go unnamed and 2 working class papers,the Post and News. Well,as time went on,the Post became more conservative and held their base which is to say,middle class readers that can read English. The News,suffering from a decline began drifting and eventually became the paper of a few diehards as well as the burgeoning non elitist liberal crowd,the “gimmies”(as opposed to the elitist “givers”). So now we have 2 papers catering to different halves of the same side and one displaying some sanity.
The drift from the paper of my childhood is sad but since the papers are union infested ratholes i’ve decided to not lose any sleep over it.


256 posted on 08/01/2009 4:20:53 PM PDT by wiggen
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To: Uncle Sham
Good catch re: 156

The proper reading of it tells us it is indeed his burden.

Is he "qualified"? "Qualified" is an adjective.

We don't know, because he has "failed to qualify", where here the word "qualify" is a verb, and that means...
AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION ON HIS PART TO PROVE HE MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS!!!!
257 posted on 08/01/2009 4:20:57 PM PDT by djf (The "racism" spiel is a crutch, those who unashamedly lean on it, cripples!)
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To: antisocial

It’s what I call a “real life answer” — in that if you way you want *this* (whatever that is) — and it’s *not happening* no matter what you do and what you try — then — that’s a “clue” for you to examine why that’s so...

People want the birth certificate to be shown. No one can do it and no court has ordered it. So, why is that?

The reason? — there is *no legal requirement* for the candidate to show his birth certificate.

Solution? — get a state law requiring it...

Problem solved...


258 posted on 08/01/2009 4:22:55 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Read post #249

THE SHIP IS GOING DOWN AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEXT SHIP IS BUILT BETTER — RIGHT!

IN-THE MEAN-TIME-SOME-OF-US-ARE-TRYING-TO-KEEP-IT-AFLOAT!

DO-YOU-UNDERSTAND?

THANKS.

HAVE A GREAT DAY!

STE=Q


259 posted on 08/01/2009 4:24:24 PM PDT by STE=Q
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To: Star Traveler; Admin Moderator

If all you are going to do is troll these threads heaping scorn on people, I suggest you take a breather and be gone for a while.

Come back when you can be more fair and balanced and not so caught up with yourself.


260 posted on 08/01/2009 4:24:37 PM PDT by djf (The "racism" spiel is a crutch, those who unashamedly lean on it, cripples!)
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