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FR Poll: Do you believe Obama is hiding or lying about something regarding his origins?
July 30, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/30/2009 11:51:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Do you believe Obama is hiding or lying about something regarding his origins?

Please elaborate.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obamasecrets; poll
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To: DaveTesla

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmJhMzlmZWFhOTQ3YjUxMDE2YWY4ZDMzZjZlYTVmZmU=

Yup that was the one - very much worth reading.


261 posted on 07/31/2009 7:28:59 AM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (He must fail.)
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To: Jim Robinson

YES, of course he’s hiding something. Not releasing any of his papers translates to “hiding something”.


262 posted on 07/31/2009 7:31:50 AM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: Jim Robinson

Yep, he is hiding something about his birth or some other thing in his past, probably several things. This is proved by the fact he refuses to do the simple act of showing his BC, he also refuses to show his school records, or any records for that matter. There is only one reason a person would do this and that is to hide something.


263 posted on 07/31/2009 7:46:45 AM PDT by calex59 (I, me, myself, am actually Jim Thompson)
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To: seekthetruth; Jim Robinson; John Robinson

0bama’s Noelani Elementary School Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.

This is an important feature because K-records for original school entry would have contained the following:

1. His REAL Birth Certificate.

2. An application with the following:

—1. His Legal name.
—2. Parents or Legal Guardians’ names.
—3. Date of Birth
—4. Place of Birth
—5. Vaccination Records (revealing a timeline to the place and DOB.)

It also is important for two reasons:

A. The Dept. of Education does not “lose” the records of one particular student. (Who paid whom what sum to make this record disappear?)

B. There would have been NO shameful low-test scores, NO embarrassing Equal Opportunity advancements, and NO trails of fraudulent funding to hide which could possibly ‘excuse’ the quashing of public school Kindergarten entry records.

For the rest of his life he attended very expensive private schools and has had his records legally sealed to deny the public, his true life story.

This is different. Hawaii should be able to verify he attended their school since he is featured in class photographs. State and federal tax dollars paid for his initial year of education. Why is there no documentation?

This is the ‘tip of the iceberg’ of an intentionally erased life of a fraudulent conman and it reeks of complicity by officials within the State of Hawaii’s Dept. of Health & Dept. of Education


264 posted on 07/31/2009 7:48:23 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Jim Robinson
I am begining to believe that Pres_ _ent Obama IS actually a natural born citizen.
I do believe that there is SOMETHING on the long form birth certificate that he doesn't want seen because it would be VERY embarrassing to him.

What that would be I couldn't say.

In the interest of transparency I believe that Pres_ _ent Obama should unblock ALL his records including, but not limited to, his public and private school records, birth certificate (long form), and any correspondence that can be found between him and any public figure, including any governmental organization.

265 posted on 07/31/2009 7:54:56 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP






A legal precedent will be set if an ineligible and/or illegally elected person or persons is/are knowingly allowed to remain in the highest elected office in the USA.

Let me be clear; if that person or persons, group, or political party is above the established constitutional laws in the USA then no person or persons residing or within the USA can be subject to any laws of the USA whatsoever.

Simply stated the penalty for an inelible person, persons, group, or political party in the USA to knowingly and willfully and with malice aforethought act and/or conspire to campaign for election will be a mandatory capitol crime.





266 posted on 07/31/2009 8:06:43 AM PDT by devolve (- - Strict scrutiny will apply and the judiciary will be subject to the same penalties - -)
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To: Jim Robinson
He is absolutely hiding something, or several somethings.

This photo says it all...

no respect Pictures, Images and Photos

267 posted on 07/31/2009 8:10:35 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Jim Robinson

Short answer: HELL YEAH.

I don’t know what it is or what it could be. There are just too many possibilities on which to speculate.

Unfortunately, until something concrete —and I mean irrefutably solid— shows up, “birthers” will be painted as wigged-out freakazoids. I can’t blame talk show hosts for not going near this until something concrete shows up, and I’m not holding my breath. However, I do hope this bc issue grows longer legs and quickly.

There are way too many other things that this disgusting poseur has done and is trying to do to ruin our Nation. Concentrating on those is good, too. Whatever our prime issue, we all need to be activists!


268 posted on 07/31/2009 8:12:54 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Embrace your inner Mengele... support doc 0zer0's snake oil death care!)
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To: Jim Robinson
No, I believe he is a US Citizen, through the parentage of his American mother, and was duly born in Hawaii.

And I believe many on this forum are wasting valuable time and energy by chasing false conspiracies. Just my two cents.

269 posted on 07/31/2009 8:14:24 AM PDT by 6323cd (I Am Jim Thompson)
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To: Jim Robinson
Yes, he has been engaging in guilty behavior, refusing to release his records and spending money in refusing to do so.

We are entitled to the "best evidence" regarding the people we vote for president. That means seeing and examining the original school, passport, birth, and selective service records.

At best, OB is lying about his life story and doesn't want to be exposed as a liar. At worst, he is perpetuating the biggest fraud in American history.

McCain revealed his birth certificate within 24 hours. So what's wrong with OB?

270 posted on 07/31/2009 8:19:39 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport, and school records.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes. I don’t know what he’s hiding, but he’s certainly hiding something. Not just the birth records, but almost all his other records as well.

As for whether he’s lying, that’s a bit more difficult. As far as I know, he has never said anything about the on-line COLB. He has left it to others, giving him deniability.

He does have a regular habit of lying, but we don’t know if he has directly lied about this business.

He has said he was born in Hawaii. We don’t know for sure if that is true or not. He has mentioned one hospital, his sister has mentioned another (perhaps an understandable mistake). Then there was that letter that one hospital used as a fundraiser, then withdrew, and refuses to talk about. And several websites changed their stories during the confusion. And O’s press secretary refuses to talk about it.

Definitely something fishy. Maybe born in Kenya, maybe in Canada, maybe in a private home. Maybe Obama was not his real father. We don’t know for sure what he’s hiding, but he’s certainly hiding something. And he is violating the spirit, if not the letter, of the Constitution, by refusing to prove that he is a natural born citizen.

I say “not the letter” because the Constitution doesn’t say who is responsible for checking a candidate’s status, and the DNC, congress, the courts, the electors, and the various state officials have refused to step in and do their proper jobs.

But I certainly think we should continue to demand release of his records—birth, school, college, passports, and many others that have gone missing. None of these records are “personal” in the sense that he should have a right to keep them private.


271 posted on 07/31/2009 8:23:12 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes, and will continue to think so unless/until he releases all his information, just as every other President in history has done.

It is not American to seal EVERY document, record, grade, or anything else that the people have a right to see.


272 posted on 07/31/2009 8:29:38 AM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes, because he’s being so evasive about it.


273 posted on 07/31/2009 8:32:31 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Maybe he’s two years older than he says. Maybe he was born in Hawaii on August 4th, 1959 and not 1961. That would be two weeks before Hawaii became a state.


274 posted on 07/31/2009 8:36:02 AM PDT by whipster
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To: whipster
Maybe he’s two years older than he says. Maybe he was born in Hawaii on August 4th, 1959 and not 1961. That would be two weeks before Hawaii became a state.

Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona Territory - that was not an impediment for him running for president.

275 posted on 07/31/2009 8:38:40 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Jim Robinson

Hiding something.

No one wanting to be President would let something such as a birth certificate prevent them from doing so. Obama obviously is the sitting President but he fought tooth and nail to not let it out.

When we have family members claim he was born in Kenya, when Obama states he was born in two different hospitals, when a bogus COLB was produced and endorsed by him, then we have enough to suspect that he needs to prove his natural citizenship by producing whatever documentation is satisfactory for doing so. So far, he has not and fights court battles to prevent it.


276 posted on 07/31/2009 8:40:00 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Jim Robinson; pissant; LucyT; STARWISE; Fred Nerks; null and void; nutmeg

Yes, he is hiding something.

When this started last year, via a Freep Reply, I offered to pay for a legitimate copy of his COLB authorized by 0b0z0 if that copy was sent to you directly from the authorities in Hawaii.

Then, you and some real people could determine from that certificate if he was a real citizen. If you and other real people said that the authorized COLB showed that 0b0z0 was born in Hawaii, I would abide with that.

I could not believe the bs, I got from so called conservative Freepers, saying would that prove nothing.

If that simple action had been done then or even now, that simple action would clear the air one way or the other.

Instead, 0b0z0 has probably spent millions with lawyers, trolls and now his mediots pets challenging us. Fr is littered with new and old trolls trying to make those of us who are asking, “Where’s the real beef, re his COLB”, the evil and dumb ones. Now, it appears that FR and Birthers are the target of all forms of the liberal media. Good, at least the left wing mediots are concerned about we have to say.

We, also, know basically nothing about his college days and how he spent his time during those days.

My offer still stands. I will pay for the cost of an authorized and legal COLB ordered by 0b0z0 to be sent to Jim Robinson at Free Republic to settle this issue.


277 posted on 07/31/2009 8:42:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals, foreign/domestic terrorists, or tax cheats?)
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To: Jim Robinson

To add more to the fire: Liberals always say, “The seriousness of the charges warrant...”

Well, the seriousness of him perhaps not being borrn in Hawaii warrants him presenting documentation that he was.


278 posted on 07/31/2009 8:44:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: teenyelliott

Teeny! Dammit, whereya been?


279 posted on 07/31/2009 8:45:17 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: dirtboy

True, but I’d bet that Goldwater’s parents were both US citizens.
HEY BARRY, what are you hiding?


280 posted on 07/31/2009 8:45:42 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Boys and Girls, it's us against them.)
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