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Obama Administration Begins Opposition To States Claiming Sovereignty And Gun Rights
blacklistednews ^ | 7/26/2009 | Black Bear Blog

Posted on 07/29/2009 9:34:47 AM PDT by FlorianG

The several states are lining up to reclaim their sovereignty and telling the federal government to butt out. This is being done in myriad ways but all are related in that most claim that the Tenth Amendment protects the states from federal tyranny. States are passing resolutions, memorials and two states have passed laws and they intend to apply those laws for their citizens. The two states are Montana and Tennessee.

It was expected that at some point these laws would be challenged and it appears actions to do such has begun. The Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has published open letters to federal firearms license holders in Montana and Tennessee explaining that federal law trumps state law when it comes to gun laws

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; atf; banglist; batfe; bhobanglist; bhofascism; bootthebatfe; communism; donttreadonme; fascism; government; gunrights; jbt; lping; statesovereignty; statesrights
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To: bill1952

And people call me crazy when I say the 2nd should protect RPGs.


41 posted on 07/29/2009 12:11:09 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (If everybody just left everybody else alone, everybody would be a lot happier.)
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To: ctdonath2
Yeah, like they’re going to nuke Jackson Hole or Houston

Maybe just Austin and Cheyenne. Once the velvet gloves come off and political correctness is thrown by the wayside, what makes you think that the hammers wont get used?

42 posted on 07/29/2009 12:14:14 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Only feces and dead fish go with the flow.)
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To: FlorianG

“The Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has published open letters to federal firearms license holders in Montana and Tennessee explaining that federal law trumps state law when it comes to gun laws”

And the Constitution trumps federal law.


43 posted on 07/29/2009 12:16:01 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: taxtruth

Don’t expect wannabe dictators to play by conventional rules. When the pen fails, they will resort to violence.


44 posted on 07/29/2009 12:16:07 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (BLOAT - Buy lots of ammo today)
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To: April Lexington

This is the best idea I’ve heard all week.


45 posted on 07/29/2009 12:18:11 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: bill1952; April Lexington

It’s almost difficult to believe this actually happened...


46 posted on 07/29/2009 12:19:21 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: Centurion2000

18,000,000 deer hunters. ‘nuff said.


47 posted on 07/29/2009 12:19:52 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: ctdonath2

I think it’s a mistake for the states to give the FEDERAL courts jurisdiction on the subject of state sovereignty. It’s an inherent conflict of interest.

Basically, any law outside of Article I, Section 8 powers of the fedgov has no jurisdiction outside of the states.


48 posted on 07/29/2009 12:19:58 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Rodebrecht

I don’t think you’re crazy at all.


49 posted on 07/29/2009 12:21:35 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: taxtruth

The Constitution is a CONTRACT under which the general government entity was formed by permission of the pre-existing state entities.

The CREATED entity is now in violation of the contract under which it was created in the first place.


50 posted on 07/29/2009 12:22:42 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: TexasRepublic
The Feds won't back off. They will send in tanks if they have to.

It definitely wouldn't be the first that the military was used to quell an uprising. Just do a little reading the at "Bonus Army"

I'm thinking the outcome will be a lot more far-reaching this time around.

51 posted on 07/29/2009 12:24:32 PM PDT by voicereason (I Don't Need SEX...I Get Screwed By Democrats Everyday!!!)
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To: djsherin

I knew I’d find kindred spirits around here. My belief is if the military can have, I should be permitted it, if I can afford it. Too bad customs keeps confiscating my T-72s. :’(


52 posted on 07/29/2009 12:27:52 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (If everybody just left everybody else alone, everybody would be a lot happier.)
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To: gimme1ibertee

53 posted on 07/29/2009 12:48:04 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: rednek

You guys are in big trouble.....

Too many conservative senators like Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) are to blame for the GOP’s downfall, one of their retiring Republican colleagues complained Monday.

“We got too many Jim DeMints and Tom Coburns,” Sen. George Voinovich (R-Ohio) told the Columbus Dispatch. “It’s the southerners.”

“They get on TV and go ‘errrr, errrrr,’” he said. “People hear them and say, ‘These people, they’re southerners. The party’s being taken over by southerners. What they hell they got to do with Ohio?’”


54 posted on 07/29/2009 12:53:42 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: TLI

When did Obama say that?


55 posted on 07/29/2009 12:53:45 PM PDT by PghBaldy (http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/06/president-obama-visits-wounded-troops.html)
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To: PghBaldy

He said something similar in December 2008, before being sworn in.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1318968,obama-gun-sales-up-120808.article

He also discussed it sometime in February 2009.


56 posted on 07/29/2009 1:12:55 PM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: FlorianG

Bull puckey. It’s a guarenteed right.


57 posted on 07/29/2009 1:15:38 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: FlorianG

this guy has to be stopped. Contact your legislators and make him a lame duck right now.


58 posted on 07/29/2009 1:25:04 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: bamahead

thanks, bfl


59 posted on 07/29/2009 2:08:21 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: PghBaldy
When did Obama say that?

It was a while back, but I found it.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1318968,obama-gun-sales-up-120808.article

Obama: Don’t stock up on guns

ABDON M. PALLASCH Chicago Sun-Times December 8, 2008

As gun sales shoot up around the country, President-elect Barack Obama said Sunday that gun-owning Americans do not need to rush out and stock up before he is sworn in next month.

I also found another good reference...

The article that appeared in the Chicago Defender on Dec. 13, 1999, when Obama was in the Illinois state Senate. According to the Defender, at an anti-gun rally, Obama "outlined his anti-gun plan," which, among other things, sought to "increase the federal taxes by 500 percent on the sale of firearm, ammunition [sic] -- weapons he says are most commonly used in firearm deaths."

Factcheck.org asked the Obama campaign about his position on an ammunition tax but have received no response.

The claim "Close Down 90 Percent of Gun Shops in America" also is based on the 1999 Defender article. It reported Obama was pushing "all federally licensed gun dealers sell firearms in a storefront and not from their homes while banning their business from being within five miles of a school or a park." The NRA states that the 5-mile limit would have resulted in the closing of 90 percent of gun shops in the country.

Again, Factcheck.org asked the Obama campaign about his position on an ammunition tax but have received no response.

60 posted on 07/29/2009 2:22:38 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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