Posted on 07/29/2009 3:34:47 AM PDT by steve-b
"Dear Birthers: Stop! Sincerely, Serious Conservatives."
I've held fire for the last several months as I've watched the so-called "Birther" movement gain steam. At first it was amusing, like playing a drinking game — you know, like taking a shot every time Chris Matthews explains why he insists on pronouncing the former Vice President's name "CHEE-knee."
It's not amusing anymore....
But that "Birther" thing ...
Seriously. Is this anything but a gift to the Democrats? ...
National Review Founder William F. Buckley, Jr., Arizona Sen. Barry Goldwater, conservative historian and philosopher Russell Kirk, and American Enterprise Institute President William Baroody took it upon themselves secretly to meet at The Breakers hotel in Palm Beach, where they decided Welch and the Birchers would have to be excommunicated from the Conservative Movement, lest their lunacy taint reasonable and responsible conservative political activity.
Were Buckley alive today, is there any doubt he would have the same response to the "Birthers"?
I think not.
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
“I don’t think the BC issue will ever hold water. But we need to keep hammering away”
I agree absolutely. I don’t really think there is anything to it either, but it needs to stay in the background so that when he stumbles, the people will say “and not only that, the SOB wasn’t even born here!”. Politics in the 21st century.
“Dear Birthers: Stop! Sincerely, Serious RINOS.”
1. It is illegal for a foreign-born person to be President of the United States.
2. The John Birch Society is the stick holding up one end of the box, with a string tied to the stick leading back into the shrubbery. That stick is holding on with all its might so the trap of tyrannical International Communism doesn’t fall finally and inexorably upon the United States and its citizens.
The NWO is in the bushes pulling harder and harder on that string.
We are under the box.
Consider the source of this article: MSNBC.
Yes, it sounds scholarly and historical ...as when the people started to demand it not only from Obama but all of the governmental class.
How about some answers from one of our “leaders” REP. JOHN CONYERS, D – MICH. (chairman of the House Judiciary Committee) who said “I love these members that get up and say, ‘Read the bill’. Well, what good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you’ve read the bill?”
How about some transparency Chairman Conyers?
I will provide two citations. You can find dozens if you look. The first is the Patrick Leahy Senate Res.511 press release from congress. The second is a pointer to the 1814 supreme case called The Venus, the name of sailing ship which cargo was captured by a US frigate. The prevailing decision defines natural born citizen unequivocally, and was written by Chief Justice John Marshall, the author of the most important USSC decision, Marbury v. Madison.
http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html
http://supreme.justia.com/us/12/253/
Beautiful summary.
Barak Obama must release Original 1961 Hawaii Certificate of Live ...
Editors Note: In December ‘08 a retired CIA officer commissioned an investigator to look into the Barack Obama birth certificate and eligibility issue. On July 21, 2009 . . .
WARNING: The information contained in this report is such that in order to fully grasp the nature and ramifications of its conclusions, it must be read from start to finish. There is no superfluous information contained in it.
This whole matter could be settled in a matter of hours if Obama simply released a legally notarized $10 copy of his long-form birth certificate BUT he can not and will not do so choosing instead to spend over a million dollars AND COUNTING in legal fees in order to keep this document HIDDEN from the American people. NO ONE SPENDS THAT KIND OF MONEY TO KEEP A $10 DOCUMENT THAT EVERY AMERICAN HAS TO PRODUCE IN ORDER TO DO ANYTHING FROM GETTING A SIMPLE DRIVERS LICENSE OR PASSPORT, UNLESS THERE IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH HIS CITIZENSHIP.
This cry of "racism" and “they are crazy” and calling us "birthers" is nothing but a RED HERRING designed to marginalize his opponents without dealing with the issue!
There has been a MASSIVE COORDINATED PUSH over the last week by the State run media (probably led by the Obama administration's and DNC's talking points outlined by Saul Alinski's principle of denigrating and marginalizing ones opponent by making fun of them) and Obamessiah's minions in order to try and reframe the entire argument regarding the legitimacy of Obama to serve, without dealing with the issue. They have to take this approach because they are totally unwilling to produce the $10 document proving once and for all that Obama is a NATURAL BORN American citizen. At this point there is absolutely no LEGAL proof presented that can be INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIED that he is one; no legitimate legal notarized $10 copy of Obamas long-form birth certificate has been produced in order to be verified and authenticated, and the fact that Obama has spent OVER A MILLION DOLLARS in legal fees to an army of lawyers all fighting the release of a $10 birth certificate point to there being a huge problem regarding his legal legitimacy to constitutionally take and hold the office of President of the United States.
Obama's new ploy is to reframe the entire argument instead of answering the question by producing the document (because he can't without destroying his presidency) and to denigrate all of those seeking simple proof that he is legitimately qualified under the guidelines of the U.S. Constitution to serve as president of the United States and Commander and Chief. He, along with his minions are seeking to marginalize us by calling everyone seeking the truth: "crazy, racist, "birthers".
Sorry DNC and Obamessiah, you and your State run media can scream "RACISTS" and "crazy birthers" all you want but it isn't going to wash THIS TIME, the Constitution says one MUST be a natural born citizen in order to hold this office, it has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE, or insanity and EVERYTHING TO DO WITH UPHOLDING THE RULE OF LAW AND THE COSTITUTION.
"president" Obama, State run media, Obamessiahs minions, do you want to put an end to all of the hoopla and the issue surrounding his legitimacy to serve? Do you want us all to shut up, do you want the issue to go away? Then all you have to do is simply release a legally notarized $10 copy of Obama’s ORIGINAL long-form birth certificate. That is all, just release a legally notarized $10 copy of the document, it is that easy, you could do it today. BUT if you can not or will not release it then this matter and questions surrounding Obamas CONSTITUTIONAL eligibility as a NATURAL BORN American citizen to serve will NEVER go away because you are hiding the truth from the American people. Your inability to produce simple legal proof that is easily available leave us with no alternative but to continue to call Obamas legal, constitutional right to qualify and serve as President of the United States, into question.
All the American people want to do is see a legally notarized $10 copy of Obamas ORIGINAL long-form birth certificate, that is it. Until we do we will RELENTLESSLY continue to press the issue.
It’s not the fact that he hasnt released a copy of the birth certificate that’s troubling, but the lengths he has gone to, to keep all personal info private. Which leads to the question............
Who is Barrack Obama??
Original birth certificate — Not released
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Besuki School application — Released
Punahou School records — Not released
Selective Service Registration — Released and under suspicion
Occidental College records — Not released
Passport (Pakistan) — Not released
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
No he has not produced a birth certificate. You need to get your facts straight.
Birthosophist would seem to be the term for those who poopoo concerns about the coverup of his birth, parentage, and childhood, preferring the mysterious assurances of Gibbs, Hawaiian officials, and MSNBC talking heads.
"Trust me..."
This is more Alinsky stuff like the orchestrated attacks on Rush and Palin. If there's nothing to hide, release all the records and documents. The issue is NOT those raising the questions.
Thanks for the link. I checked out one of her other articles. Looks like she’s doing good work.
That’s exactly the way I look at it.
Use their tactics against them.
Eventually even his most ardent supporters will have to denounce him on some point.
You need to get your head straight and engage your brain before your keyboard. Read it again.
What is clear is that Obama is hiding something and no matter what kind of ridicule the MSM wants to throw at me, I won't rest until I find out what exactly itis that Obama is hiding.
Marginalizing those with legitimate questions as kooks and getting liberal useful idiots like the author of this article and a lot of freepers to echo the sentiment is a standard Alinsky tactic.
Transparency in Goverment movement...TIGers!
How generous and thoughtful of Bill Pascoe to hold fire all these months while the birther movement has gathered steam, particularly now that he has “opened fire” and we see that he is extremely poorly informed, not very articulate and greatly mistaken in everything he says. We really need such so-self-called “conservatives” because, it is obvious, we are ordinary people who are clearly incapable of looking into matters and deciding for ourselves. We seem now to have a class of the anointed who pose as conservative buy plainly see themselves as the “vanguard of the masses.”
By making this point, that Obama is refusing to illuminate his history by releasing the records of his birth, that numbers you among the kooks who the MSM calls "Birthers". Just because you don't believe he was born in Kenya doesn't immunize you from the ridicule. The mere fact that you point out his obfuscation on the issue makes you as much of a kook as the guy who insists that he was born in a village in Kenya.
The fact is that nobody seems to know where Obama was born. The circumstantial evidence suggests that wherever he was born, they did not issue a birth certificate and that Obama (who's race is listed as "African" on his COLB) obtained his original birth certificate by oath or affirmation of either himself or his family sometime after he was born and that the Hawaii certificate of live birth was not derived from any hospital records.
One would think that if a white woman delivered a black child in Hawaii in 1961 that it would have drawn the attention of someone who could recall the event. Interracial marriages in 1961 were as rare as hens' teeth.
So tell me Natan, what proof, other than this document that is supposedly the "official" document of the State of Hawaii, do you have that Obama was born in Hawaii? Can you name the hospital? Can you name the attending physician?
You and I both know that Obama is hiding the ball. The tactic is to continue to hide the ball while accusing those who complain of being conspiracy kooks.
I don't give a damn where he was born, because even if he were born in Kenya and his father was Satan, the congress of the United States will NEVER attempt to remove him from office. But that does not diminish the fact that Obama is hiding his history and I think it is imperative that we find out the full history of this man who is desperately trying to remake the United States into a Socialist utopia.
So a liberal dem, Hillary supporter started this whole question about the eligibility of Bama... and nary a judge in the whole of this nation saw fit to require the display the literal evidence because the commoners (literal citizens) were found to NOT have standing.
Oh and how the mouthpieces who do little else but pontificate about the world around US is, and should be, now want to make this query a 'conservative' or more simply put a 'kook' issue. Looks more like to me a whole lot of chaff is getting blown off the wheat. That is the gift to US, because whatever it is Bama is hiding something!!!!!
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