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Unveiled! Hawaii's 1961 long-form birth certificates
WND ^ | 7/28/09 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 07/28/2009 7:34:23 PM PDT by pissant

Images of two 1961 Hawaii birth certificates similar to the one President Obama purportedly has on file have now been unveiled.

The Honolulu Advertiser published photostats of the original long-form birth certificates of twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke at Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital Aug. 5, 1961, one day after Obama was supposedly born at the same facility.

The Nordykes' certificates include information missing from the short-form document for Obama published online, including the name of the hospital, the name of the attending physician, name and address of the parents, the race of the parents and the race of the baby.

As WND reported yesterday, Hawaii's director of health responded to the growing controversy over the White House's refusal to release Obama's original long-form birth certificate by issuing a statement about the document in apparent contravention of Hawaiian law.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birtherloons; birthers; certifigate; colb; freepersareloons; freepersarenutcases; hotair; iloveobama; imom; larrysinclairslover; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obroma; youlooneyidiots; youlostgetoveritass
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Of course, we all know the socilaists and their propaganda wing controlling the national press would never forge anything for political gain, now would they.

On September 8, 2004, Dan Rather cited “exclusive information, including documents” to justify major CBS Evening News and 60 Minutes stories alleging that George W. Bush shirked his duties when he was in the Texas Air National Guard in the 1960s and 1970s. Within a few hours of those documents being posted on CBS News’s Web site, however, typography experts voiced skepticism that the documents had actually originated with their alleged author and Bush’s former commanding officer, the late Lt. Colonel Jerry Killian. As the evidence mounted, Rather stubbornly clung to the idea that his story was bulletproof, and he derided critics as partisans and Internet rumormongers. When he “apologized” on September 20, Rather would not concede that the documents were forgeries, only that he and CBS could “no longer vouch for their authenticity.”

CBS Disregarded Experts, Challenged Laura Bush: ABC’s Brian Ross reported on the September 14 World News Tonight that “two experts hired by CBS News say the network ignored concerns they raised prior to the broadcast about the disputed National Guard records.” But over on CBS, reporter John Roberts wondered why President Bush wasn’t taking those memos seriously: “The President has yet to weigh in on new documents about his National Guard record made public last week by 60 Minutes.” Roberts also chastised First Lady Laura Bush for doubting CBS’s memos were authentic: “Laura Bush offered no evidence to back up her claim, and CBS News continues to stand by its reporting.”

Sticking By His Smear: On September 10, Dan Rather responded to charges the memos he cited as proving Bush’s dereliction were forged, telling his CBS Evening News audience that the memos were genuine and attacking any doubters as partisan rumor-mongers. “Today, on the Internet and elsewhere, some people, including many who are partisan political operatives, concentrated not on the key questions of the overall story, but on the documents that were part of the support of the story,” Rather castigated. But his lame defense ignored key challenges to the documents’ typography and content, and the doubts voiced by the widow and son of the supposed author, the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian. Instead, Rather chose to repeat his indictment of President Bush’s National Guard service. Rather arrogantly concluded: “If any definitive evidence to the contrary of our story is found, we will report it. So far there is none.” (CyberAlert, September 11, 2004)

121 posted on 07/28/2009 9:15:51 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: keats5
This explains why the certificate number was blacked out on the COLB that was posted on the internet; the number on the form is out of order.

Then why did Obama's people let FactCheck photograph a paper certificate with the number showing?

122 posted on 07/28/2009 9:16:03 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Ticonderoga34

It would be nice to see Glenn Beck and Lou Dobbs at Fox squeeze The Leprechaun over to CNN or back to Inside Edition.

BOR(e) - loud mouth Long Islander like Rosie and Alec Baldwin.

Lou Dobbs is awesome.


123 posted on 07/28/2009 9:16:51 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero!)
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To: STARWISE

This is pure unadulterated hubris on ‘FACT CHECK’s’ part!

WHY CAN’T OBAMA JUST RELEASE THE LONG FORM BC SO EVERYONE IN AMERICA CAN VIEW IT? Why are only a few ‘select’ people allowed to see it or know the truth?

I don’t want a ‘sworn’ testimony of one person in the United States! I want Obama to release his records(ALL OF THEM) for every American in this country to view!

Gads..this pisses me off! I can’t believe everyone in America is not steaming mad over this BS!


124 posted on 07/28/2009 9:19:57 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: BP2
I think we should be looking for a "Photostat" copy of the Barack Obama CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH made from the original CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH if he was born in Hawaii.

Just as the two black copies in this post by BP2 are Photostat copies.

125 posted on 07/28/2009 9:20:56 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF - Year: 1972)
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To: Jedidah

Since the COLB lists Honolulu as place of birth, then why is the COLB necessary as a birth certificate? Arn’t COLBs for adopted or foreign born children?


126 posted on 07/28/2009 9:22:43 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: STARWISE

Well, since Factcheck.org and the Annenberg Education Challenge (that Barack Obama and self-described terrorist/communist Bill Ayers both worked for) have the same funding soros, uh, I mean source, you’ll forgive me if I do my own research, I hope.


127 posted on 07/28/2009 9:23:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("I won't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass." Admiral IsorokoYamamoto)
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To: Buddy B
151-61-10637

151-61-10638

151-61-10639

151-61-10640

151-61-10641

Wonder about 151-61-10639 and 151-61-10640 ??

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10639 and 10640: They are Obama's age, so they or some of their relatives should be alive somewhere. They may even be living in Hawaii.

So, to the numbers above: If you were born in Hawaii around Aug. 4, 1961, the day Obama supposedly was born in Hawaii, please contact us and let us see your Hawaii long form birth certificate. Thanks.

128 posted on 07/28/2009 9:23:22 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
That is suspicious.

How so?

You yourself mention Y2K. Obviously, between the long form created in 1961 and the short form issued in 2007, Hawaii modernized their systems.

129 posted on 07/28/2009 9:24:23 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: pissant

Those birth certificates look like mine, and I was born in Mississippi!


130 posted on 07/28/2009 9:26:40 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: freedomconservationist

You don’t know what the heck you’re babbling, n00b! Try again.


131 posted on 07/28/2009 9:29:24 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: WVNan

Not necessarily.


132 posted on 07/28/2009 9:30:37 PM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: Frantzie
Dobbs is a slant left Independent who is stuck on BDS. And that's a fault
for viewers who don't want to hear the BS coming from the left.

He's just a vocal trumpet of popular opinion trying to get ratings.
I actually listen to him more than Hannity because Hannity has become
a VOCAL SHRILL like Hillary. Get that Hannity? You're sounding like
HILLARY did..

133 posted on 07/28/2009 9:33:54 PM PDT by MaxMax (Will the real JIM THOMPSON please pick up the white phone)
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To: concerned about politics

Not perfectly ... “The new certificate of birth shall show the true or probable foreign country of birth, and that the certificate is not evidence of United States citizenship for the child for whom it is issued or for the adoptive parents.”


134 posted on 07/28/2009 9:34:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: pissant
... the race of the parents and the race of the baby...perchance does Obama's COLB list him as "caucasian"? - what a blow that would be to the first real black President claim to fame......
135 posted on 07/28/2009 9:34:21 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Jedidah

So, for what other reasons would a COLB be issued?


136 posted on 07/28/2009 9:34:23 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: MHGinTN
Not perfectly ... “The new certificate of birth shall show the true or probable foreign country of birth, and that the certificate is not evidence of United States citizenship for the child for whom it is issued or for the adoptive parents.”

Why not perfectly?

137 posted on 07/28/2009 9:37:04 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: WVNan

It is my understanding that a COLB is an abbreviated form of the original birth certificate, regardless of what the original says — late registration, adoption, birth out of Hawaii, etc.


138 posted on 07/28/2009 9:37:41 PM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: WVNan

This thread explains the different type of documents loosly called birth certificates created in the state of HI. It explains it better than any one here can in greater detail.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2301706/posts

Also read this primer for a better understanding.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2275574/posts


139 posted on 07/28/2009 9:39:57 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Jedidah
It is my understanding that a COLB is an abbreviated form of the original birth certificate, regardless of what the original says — late registration, adoption, birth out of Hawaii, etc.

Oboma is claiming the short version IS his original certificate. That makes a difference. That means maybe he wasn't born in that hospital, otherwise the original would have been a long version.

140 posted on 07/28/2009 9:41:38 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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